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3 minutes ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

If the Orioles don't resign Jeremy, who are you going to have fill the last three spots? You guys are so negative that it is absolutely ridiculous. You are never happy or satisfied. If Jeremy pitches well, the Orioles need to resign him period. That is all I am going to say about that.

Well, we have to get SOMEONE (or 3 someone's).   It doesn't have to be Jeremy Hellickson, but he is certainly a candidate.

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How much do you guys think Hellickson gets on the open market? Is 3/40 about right? Feldman got 3/30 but that was four years ago. If he pitches well the rest of the way and they can get him for that, I'd do it. Then resign Tillman on a one year deal of about 1/10. 

That leaves the team with about 20 million left to sign another pitcher and get a veteran outfield bat. Then I push hard for Alex Cobb and offer him 4/68 - 4/76

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Gasuman, 

Bundy

Cobb

Tillman

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The Orioles traded for him, so I think it's obvious they like him and - barring a poor performance for the rest of the season - they'll want to keep him.  So this might be more of an audition for Hellickson to evaluate if he wants to play for Baltimore.  I hope he does.  

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Hellickson on a 2 or 3 year deal wouldn't be bad. He doesn't rely on velocity and has had success in the AL east. Hes basically a healthier Chris Tillman. I suspect Tillman will want to go to a team with a bigger park on a 1 year deal to prove himself. I could see him going back home to CA with the Angels.

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32 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

"He was able to pitch in Philly for pete's sake...with an era of 4.73" - There. Fixed that for ya!

3.89 last two seasons in citizens part or are we only allowed to use the bad stats. 

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Yeah, I don't think Jeremy would want anymore than fourty million. You might be able to sign him for less. He is also only 30 years old. If Jeremy enjoys his time in Baltimore then you definitely have to resign him especially if he continues to pitch well. If he pitches absolutely terrible then that will be a different debate for another day.

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11 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

How much do you guys think Hellickson gets on the open market? Is 3/40 about right? Feldman got 3/30 but that was four years ago. If he pitches well the rest of the way and they can get him for that, I'd do it. Then resign Tillman on a one year deal of about 1/10. 

That leaves the team with about 20 million left to sign another pitcher and get a veteran outfield bat. Then I push hard for Alex Cobb and offer him 4/68 - 4/76

Rotation:

Gasuman, 

Bundy

Cobb

Tillman

Hellickson    

I don't think they add a vetern bat.  They have Jones and Mancini as two for sure guys.  Trumbo will Dh.  Then you have Hays, Santander and Rickard to fill the last spot.  I actually think the only position you may see a move is middle infielder.  The bullpen looks solid as well.  I think they take the 40 million or so they have and put it in the rotation.  I still think Tilman takes a 1 year deal for around the 10 million with an option.  He seems to like it here Buck likes him and he seems to fit here. 

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1 hour ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

If Jeremy pitches well for the Orioles, is there any chance that the Orioles will resign him? As we all know, we only have like two starters pencilled in for next year. I would love for the Orioles to resign him. Does Jeremy have Scott Boras as his agent? If I were the Orioles, I would try and resign him befIG iore he reaches free agency.

Big if.

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1 minute ago, bpilktree said:

I don't think they add a vetern bat.  They have Jones and Mancini as two for sure guys.  Trumbo will Dh.  Then you have Hays, Santander and Rickard to fill the last spot.  I actually think the only position you may see a move is middle infielder.  The bullpen looks solid as well.  I think they take the 40 million or so they have and put it in the rotation.  I still think Tilman takes a 1 year deal for around the 10 million with an option.  He seems to like it here Buck likes him and he seems to fit here. 

I'd be okay with that and it makes sense. I would like if they improved the bench a bit by bringing in some hitters on minor league deals like they did with Delmon Young in 2014.

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4 hours ago, drdelaware said:

I can't imagine how Tillman feels right now.  What an awful season to have in a walk year.   He probably thought he'd be cashing in.  Now who knows what happens to him.

He feels lousy about it I'm sure.    Then he remembers that he's already made over $20 mm playing baseball.   

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3 hours ago, bpilktree said:

3.89 last two seasons in citizens part or are we only allowed to use the bad stats. 

I see your 3.89 era and raise you...

1) 2015 - 4.62 ERA (146 IP)

2) 2014 - 4.52  ERA (63.2 IP)

3) 2013 - 5.17 ERA (174 IP)

 

Jeremy Hellickson hasn't been a good pitcher for quite a while. And he's never pitched more than 190 innings in a single season and has an abysmal K per 9 rate (5.1 this season). If you're not a great pitcher then you need to at least be a work horse. He is neither. And your certainly not going to be successful in this division if you can't miss bats. 

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3 hours ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Yeah, I don't think Jeremy would want anymore than fourty million. You might be able to sign him for less. He is also only 30 years old. If Jeremy enjoys his time in Baltimore then you definitely have to resign him especially if he continues to pitch well. If he pitches absolutely terrible then that will be a different debate for another day.

I love this. Now we're the ones courting Jeremy Hellickson, a mediocre pitcher who doesn't miss bats and who hasn't demonstrated the ability to be a work horse. Yeah, I'm sure he's really going to put us over the top...

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4 hours ago, SteveA said:

Well, we have to get SOMEONE (or 3 someone's).   It doesn't have to be Jeremy Hellickson, but he is certainly a candidate.

Given the way pitchers these days seem to be, getting 4 someones might be a better idea and just go with a 6 man rotation and a one lesser bench. 

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6 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

I see your 3.89 era and raise you...

1) 2015 - 4.62 ERA (146 IP)

2) 2014 - 4.52  ERA (63.2 IP)

3) 2013 - 5.17 ERA (174 IP)

 

Jeremy Hellickson hasn't been a good pitcher for quite a while. And he's never pitched more than 190 innings in a single season and has an abysmal K per 9 rate (5.1 this season). If you're not a great pitcher then you need to at least be a work horse. He is neither. And your certainly not going to be successful in this division if you can't miss bats. 

Agree. No way should the orioles invest money in Hellickson next year. Hope you catch lightening in a bottle for two months or so and then invest the money more wisely next year. Unfortunately Hellickson will probably provide Orioles fans with an example of why they shouldn't sign him next year in one of his upcoming starts. 

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