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13 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

It's just an opinion I have. I just hate to see the team crippled for several years because DD gave up top prospects for say a very good pitcher at the outside chance of making the playoffs. As for the Yankees we have 7 games with them. We'd have to win what 5 or 6 of them? I don't how many games we have left with Boston. Trip to the West Coast doesn't always work the best for the O's. I just don't to see DD screw up the teams future for an outside chance at a playoff. The farm is not very good. I don't won't to see him give away anymore of it in a trade. Sorry if this upsets you. 

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Why would you think it upsets me?  

And you didn't answer my question.  Why would we necessarily have to catch either the Yanks or Sox to be in the playoffs?  You're entitled to your opinion.  What confuses me, though, is why you would intentionally misrepresent the picture to make things seem more bleak...

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The only way this team is playoff bound is if they buy their tickets like any other fan.  But by all means squeeze the last few drops of blood out of the farm system for a moonshot.  That should make for some good threads in a few years when the guys you traded are doing great and the guy we traded for is an analyst on MLB Network.

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1 hour ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

The O's can't even get to .500.  They are not a playoff contender.  The Beckham trade was good, but don't trade any more assets for a hopeless quest.

Well, they can get to .500. The problem is that they can't get over it. The Orioles have reached .500 six times since June 12 and have an 0-6 record in the following games when they try to get over .500.  

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2 minutes ago, TINSTAAPP said:

Well, they can get to .500. The problem is that they can't get over it. The Orioles have reached .500 six times since June 12 and have an 0-6 record in the following games when they try to get over .500.  

They'll have great chances against the Astros and Dodgers.

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8 minutes ago, Barnaby Graves said:

They'll have great chances against the Astros and Dodgers.

That'll be interesting considering neither of those teams are on our remaining regular season schedule.  

Unless you're talking about in the playoffs, which has nothing to do with the text you quoted.

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23 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

That'll be interesting considering neither of those teams are on our remaining regular season schedule.  

Unless you're talking about in the playoffs, which has nothing to do with the text you quoted.

Spelled out: if they can't get over .500, they're not the caliber of team that can go far in the playoffs, even by the generous odds that bad teams can get in short series.

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4 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

No, really. we don't play the Royals again and they are 2 games ahead of us. We could play great, but they could keep pace and keep us out of it. We do go head-to-head with the west coast teams, the Rays and the Yankees. If the Royals match us, we will have to unseat the Yankees, who are currently 4-1/2 games over us. It's not impossible, but we are not entirely in control of our destiny. All we can do is play well and hope for the best.

KC down 7-2

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3 hours ago, Lucky_13 said:

Well since the Orioles are going to win the division, I completely agree. 

Would love to get JA Happ if he's available but I doubt the Jays are dealing 

Guys I'd target 

1) Andrew Cashner : 50.4 % groundball rate. Could always go to the pen if he struggles 

2) RA Dickey: He'd eat a lot of innings and knuckleballs are cool 

3) Jeff Samardzija: He has a WHIP around 1.2 and strikes out over 9 per game. If SF eats a bit of his contract, we have him under control for another three years so he helps this year and next year. FIP of 3.53. Would be most expensive 

I like Cashner. Chacon from SD would be a good fit. Of course these guys have to clear waivers first. 

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4 hours ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

How could we possibly make up TWO games over two months?!?!?  :eek:

Exactly. It's kind of disingenuous to point out the Royals position ahead without noting they made up 3 games on them in 3 days. They did their job in that series. I think we are a better team, which will be show in the records.

They need to handle business against Angels and Seattle. The rotations lines up well for the Angels series.

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Here is what the 5 guys currently in our rotation have done over the last two weeks.    Allowed 2 or fewer runs in ALL BUT ONE start since July 23:

Starter        Date   IP   H   R  ER  BB  K  HR
-------        ----   --   -   -  --  --  -  --
Gausman        7/24   6.0  5   0   0   3  8   0
Miley          7/25   6.0  5   5   5   3  4   1
Jimenez        7/26   6.0  3   2   2   2  9   1
Gausman        7/29   8.2  7   0   0   3  8   0
Miley          7/30   5.0  4   2   2   1  5   1
Jimenez        7/31   7.0  5   1   1   2  6   0
Bundy          8/1    8.0  3   1   0   1  5   0
Hellickson     8/2    7.0  5   0   0   1  3   0
Gausman        8/4    7.0  3   1   1   1  8   1
Miley          8/5    5.0  4   2   2   1  5   0
Jimenez        8/6    5.2  9   1   1   3  6   1
TOTAL                70.2 53  15  14  21 59   5

ERA  1.78
WHIP 1.05
BB/9 2.67
K/9  7.51
HR/9 0.64

 

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29 minutes ago, Barnaby Graves said:

Will logic ever win out over irrational exuberance?  No, probably not, for the same reason that casinos are big, tall buildings.

Throw good money after bad and wonder how you ended up in the gutter.  Welcome back to 1998.

The reality of the 2nd wild card. A mediocre, flawed, team is going to make the playoffs. What makes KC, SEA, TB more deserving than us?  Like it or not, we're 2 GB of a playoff game. 

I think we could make a little move for Cashner or Chacin for a top 25-30 prospect. That isn't dooming the franchise. 

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