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One reason could be his performance. Angelos may want to move in a new direction, it may be time to move on from giving away young cheap players for older, much more expensive, lesser players. Angelos may notice that no one on the planet could have possibly put together a lesser rotation. 

Miley, Ubaldo, Tillman, Hellickson wouldn't start for anyone we are trying to catch in the playoff race. Ed Rod, Bridwell, Davies, Brault, Hader, Miranda, Jake, & two first round picks is a steep price to pay for absolutely nothing on this roster. The good news is, Angelos may be able to watch 6 of them in the playoffs & first round picks aren't important. 

9 cheap assets & Strop all given away for Angelos to have the opportunity to pay guys like Miley, Baldo, & Gallardo a lot of money. I bet a lot of those teams wish they could trade back with us, but no can do, Dan got ya. 

Oh yeah, and now Dan wants Peter to sign off on giving something else away for a Miguel Dan let go. I wager that doesn't sound so good to ownership.

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32 minutes ago, Cumberbundy said:

One reason could be his performance. Angelos may want to move in a new direction, it may be time to move on from giving away young cheap players for older, much more expensive, lesser players. Angelos may notice that no one on the planet could have possibly put together a lesser rotation. 

Miley, Ubaldo, Tillman, Hellickson wouldn't start for anyone we are trying to catch in the playoff race. Ed Rod, Bridwell, Davies, Brault, Hader, Miranda, Jake, & two first round picks is a steep price to pay for absolutely nothing on this roster. The good news is, Angelos may be able to watch 6 of them in the playoffs & first round picks aren't important. 

9 cheap assets & Strop all given away for Angelos to have the opportunity to pay guys like Miley, Baldo, & Gallardo a lot of money. I bet a lot of those teams wish they could trade back with us, but no can do, Dan got ya. 

Oh yeah, and now Dan wants Peter to sign off on giving something else away for a Miguel Dan let go. I wager that doesn't sound so good to ownership.

Angelos is no expert to influence any of the acting GMs decisions who've come before Duquette. That hasn't changed since he hired Dan.

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Not a chance in hell Angelos fires Duquette with 1 year remaining on his contract (same w/ Showalter).

I'd like to see Duquette let go. But mainly because the rebuild should have started before this season started. Or before the trade deadline.

Not at the end of next year...which appears to be the trajectory.

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1 minute ago, LookitsPuck said:

Not a chance in hell Angelos fires Duquette with 1 year remaining on his contract (same w/ Showalter).

I'd like to see Duquette let go. But mainly because the rebuild should have started before this season started. Or before the trade deadline.

Not at the end of next year...which appears to be the trajectory.

So Peter gave Dan the go ahead to rebuild? 

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So Peter gave Dan the go ahead to rebuild? 

I have no idea. 

I'm talking about wishful thinking. I'd like someone manning the helm that gives me confidence in a rebuild. Not a guy like Duquette who seemingly goes into every offseason without much of a plan. Well, unless that plan is "Take job for Blue Jays". Or "Acquire random scrub starter for 1st round draft pick". :shrug:

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3 hours ago, Cumberbundy said:

One reason could be his performance. Angelos may want to move in a new direction, it may be time to move on from giving away young cheap players for older, much more expensive, lesser players. Angelos may notice that no one on the planet could have possibly put together a lesser rotation. 

Miley, Ubaldo, Tillman, Hellickson wouldn't start for anyone we are trying to catch in the playoff race. Ed Rod, Bridwell, Davies, Brault, Hader, Miranda, Jake, & two first round picks is a steep price to pay for absolutely nothing on this roster. The good news is, Angelos may be able to watch 6 of them in the playoffs & first round picks aren't important. 

9 cheap assets & Strop all given away for Angelos to have the opportunity to pay guys like Miley, Baldo, & Gallardo a lot of money. I bet a lot of those teams wish they could trade back with us, but no can do, Dan got ya. 

Oh yeah, and now Dan wants Peter to sign off on giving something else away for a Miguel Dan let go. I wager that doesn't sound so good to ownership.

I think you are overestimating Angelos' baseball IQ,  He no doubt has/had a brilliant legal mind, but he seems to be in a special ed class for baseball knowledge.  No interest in international talent (over 1/3 of MLB players and top 8 prospects), emphasis on HR over complete baseball players, no working plan to develop starting pitchers, etc.  don't show he has much baseball intelligence.  I think that if Angelos fires DD, he is replaced by Brady. 

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Better be careful what you wish for. 

Angelos hired Syd Thrift who had no business running a team at that stage in his career.  

Then we had the co-GM approach of Beattie- Flanny then Flanny-Jim Duquette. Flanny had no prior Front Office experience.  

Until MacPhail was brought in there was no real clear plan. 

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