This is absurd

[Legend_Of_Joey]

I really wish telepathy and mind reading was real, because I want to get inside of Buck and DD's head. The same lineup gets run out there every night and has had the same results. A loss. 

You have multiple call ups that aren't doing anything. Remember last season how Mancini showed he belonged and did it during an actual Wild Card race?

Instead, now you have Hays, Sisco, and Santander just sitting on the bench, with Alvarez chilling. 

If you call these guys up, PLAY THEM! The whole point of an "expanded roster" is to give you options. Instead, the bench is a little more crowded.

If you just wanted bodies, they should have called up Pena, Yaz, and Washington, if they were just going to let them sit. To bring up Hays right as Bowie was about to play a playoff game and just have him sit is a giant middle finger to the Minor League too. I would have been on board with Hays coming up when he did if he actually played, but to take him from a playoff team to have him sit on the bench and watch Trumbo throw a fit about a pie and then see Trumbo fail in the field and Davis become the owner of the letter "k"...

Everyday, the lineup gets posted and everyday, you can garuntee that Buck will provide the other team with atleast 4 strike outs. 

Come on, man...

[Can_of_corn]

I'm guessing here but I don't think Dan is pleased.

There was no reason to pull Hays out of the AA playoffs if you are not going to play him.

[El Gordo]

2 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

I really wish telepathy and mind reading was real, because I want to get inside of Buck and DD's head. The same lineup gets run out there every night and has had the same results. A loss. 

You have multiple call ups that aren't doing anything. Remember last season how Mancini showed he belonged and did it during an actual Wild Card race?

Instead, now you have Hays, Sisco, and Santander just sitting on the bench, with Alvarez chilling. 

If you call these guys up, PLAY THEM! The whole point of an "expanded roster" is to give you options. Instead, the bench is a little more crowded.

If you just wanted bodies, they should have called up Pena, Yaz, and Washington, if they were just going to let them sit. To bring up Hays right as Bowie was about to play a playoff game and just have him sit is a giant middle finger to the Minor League too. I would have been on board with Hays coming up when he did if he actually played, but to take him from a playoff team to have him sit on the bench and watch Trumbo throw a fit about a pie and then see Trumbo fail in the field and Davis become the owner of the letter "k"...

Everyday, the lineup gets posted and everyday, you can garuntee that Buck will provide the other team with atleast 4 strike outs. 

Come on, man...

Hays, Sisco, and Santander, are going to be on the 25 man next season. Like he did with Jeter with the Yankees he brings these guys up to help them acclimate to the big leagues,

[Tx Oriole]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm guessing here but I don't think Dan is pleased.

There was no reason to pull Hays out of the AA playoffs if you are not going to play him.

As far as I am concerned Dan could've told Buck to play Hays. After all DD is Bucks boss.

[PaulFolk]

3 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Hays, Sisco, and Santander, are going to be on the 25 man next season. Like he did with Jeter with the Yankees he brings these guys up to help them acclimate to the big leagues,

You know what else would help acclimate them to the big leagues? Letting them actually play.

It'd be one thing if the Orioles' lineup were hitting so well right now that you didn't want to disrupt anything. But the offense has been awful all month and badly needs a spark. You have three young prospects twiddling their thumbs on the bench.

Hays, in particular, should be playing nearly every day. It's ridiculous to call him up (and start his service clock, and rob Bowie of its best player in the playoffs) only to have him ride the pine while the likes of Joey Rickard make starts. That'd be like if the Orioles had called up Manny Machado in 2012 and had him sit on the bench while Ryan Flaherty started at third.

[eddie83]

I view Sisco and Santander different than Hays. All teams add a 3rd catcher. It isn't like Caleb and Wellington have had poor seasons.  Santander is more of a project. On some levels they took adavantage of his injuries to buy time with him.  The kid has hardly played in AA. 

Hays is a different story. To call him up right before Bowie was headed to the playoffs to me was about trying to give the Orioles a push for the playoffs. Sure it helps him get acclimated like Jeter in 95.  That said when Joey Rickard takes a start from him and a pinch hitting opportunity that doesn't add up.  And yes it is true the Orioles have not faced a LH starter. It is also true the lineup is struggling.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

12 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

As far as I am concerned Dan could've told Buck to play Hays. After all DD is Bucks boss.

I'm going to guess Buck doesn't care what DD thinks and Buck answers to ownership before DD.  Seen this played out before with players like Kim who Buck all but ignored and wanted relegated to Norfolk last year.

[Frobby]

These threads are getting a little redundant.    Is there going to be a new one every day when the lineup card comes out?

Buck's explained his plan for Hays.    Don't expect to see him vs. RHP, at least until we are mathematically eliminated or very close.    Sisco is here for emergencies.   Santander's here because he has to be.     We just aren't going to see a lot of these guys over the next 10 days.    Live with it!

Unless I'm missing something, as currently scheduled we'll see one LHP in the Yankee series, two in the Red Sox series, two in the Tampa series, one in the Pittsburgh series and two in the final series with Tampa.    That's 8 lefties in the final 17 games.    We'll see plenty of Hays, and maybe more of him and the others once we are closer to elimination.   

[Legend_Of_Joey]

18 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I view Sisco and Santander different than Hays. All teams add a 3rd catcher. It isn't like Caleb and Wellington have had poor seasons.  Santander is more of a project. On some levels they took adavantage of his injuries to buy time with him.  The kid has hardly played in AA. 

Hays is a different story. To call him up right before Bowie was headed to the playoffs to me was about trying to give the Orioles a push for the playoffs. Sure it helps him get acclimated like Jeter in 95.  That said when Joey Rickard takes a start from him and a pinch hitting opportunity that doesn't add up.  And yes it is true the Orioles have not faced a LH starter. It is also true the lineup is struggling.  

As far as a 3rd catcher, if you aren't going to play Sisco, bring up Pena. Last year, they brought Joseph back up as the 3rd catcher and didn't play Pena much.

Santander is a project, but you know how you find out what he can do in the Majors? By letting him play in the Majors.

I agree that it's confusing with him. 

[Legend_Of_Joey]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

These threads are getting a little redundant.    Is there going to be a new one every day when the lineup card comes out?

Buck's explained his plan for Hays.    Don't expect to see him vs. RHP, at least until we are mathematically eliminated or very close.    Sisco is here for emergencies.   Santander's here because he has to be.     We just aren't going to see a lot of these guys over the next 10 days.    Live with it!

Unless I'm missing something, as currently scheduled we'll see one LHP in the Yankee series, two in the Red Sox series, two in the Tampa series, one in the Pittsburgh series and two in the final series with Tampa.    That's 8 lefties in the final 17 games.    We'll see plenty of Hays, and maybe more of him and the others once we are closer to elimination.   

Not from me Frobby. I just reached the "to hell with it" point.

I can "live with it" while also voicing a displeasure over how the roster is being used. It's a benefit of being apart of this board and being a fan. Live with it! ?

Look, Buck and Dan knew he wasn't going to be getting used much and not for a while, so why bring him up and prety much let him sit for 2 weeks instead of letting him play every day and then either come up or be on the Taxi Squad before coming up, like Mancini?

Also the point is, the current lineup hasn't been working lately and needs some type of spark. Maybe one of the call ups can provide it?

[Tx Oriole]

32 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I view Sisco and Santander different than Hays. All teams add a 3rd catcher. It isn't like Caleb and Wellington have had poor seasons.  Santander is more of a project. On some levels they took adavantage of his injuries to buy time with him.  The kid has hardly played in AA. 

Hays is a different story. To call him up right before Bowie was headed to the playoffs to me was about trying to give the Orioles a push for the playoffs. Sure it helps him get acclimated like Jeter in 95.  That said when Joey Rickard takes a start from him and a pinch hitting opportunity that doesn't add up.  And yes it is true the Orioles have not faced a LH starter. It is also true the lineup is struggling.  

Buck needs to play all three of them. Especially Hays. It's just Buck being being stubborn. That man got to go. And I wished soon. To me he is worse than DD.

[Malike]

5 hours ago, Tx Oriole said:

Buck needs to play all three of them. Especially Hays. It's just Buck being being stubborn. That man got to go. And I wished soon. To me he is worse than DD.

Finally, something absurd said in the This is Absurd thread. Only took 11 posts to get there.

[Frobby]

I did note that Richard Urena, Teoscar Hernandez and Carlos Ramirez, all September call-ups, made nice contributions in the 7 games we played with the Jays in the last two weeks.

[tntoriole]

6 hours ago, El Gordo said:

Hays, Sisco, and Santander, are going to be on the 25 man next season. Like he did with Jeter with the Yankees he brings these guys up to help them acclimate to the big leagues,

Actually Jeter was called up from AA ball for 15 games in 1995 when Tony Fernandez was hurt.  He played and started all those games, then was sent back down when Fernandez returned...because Buck plays veterans, you know.  Then Showalter was canned and Torre installed Jeter the next year. 

[Malike]

5 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Actually Jeter was called up from AA ball for 15 games in 1995 when Tony Fernandez was hurt.  He played and started all those games, then was sent back down when Fernandez returned...because Buck plays veterans, you know.  Then Showalter was canned and Torre installed Jeter the next year. 

This is true, but you have to add that Fernandez was done in 96 for the whole season and Jeter got the spot. It wasn't because he supplanted a healthy Fernandez which is what you are sort of implying.