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I don't think O's will have a choice if Manny goes.. & why wouldn't he? O's certainly not serious about WS championship...clear by the lack of interest in good pitching & clear organization not willing to spend money on building a championship ..they have been burnt by Davis's complete bust. Went on a limb for Ubaldo another bust.. Trumbo not much better. So why should these players stick around.. There is no clutch or playing inspired ball.. what about Buck getting the boot? Should build around Schoop, Mancini, Beckmann, Gentry, Smith, Gausman & Bundy.. this Hays kid looks good.. can't be much worst than what's happing on the field now... 

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14 minutes ago, Gman!! said:

I don't think O's will have a choice if Manny goes.. & why wouldn't he? O's certainly not serious about WS championship...clear by the lack of interest in good pitching & clear organization not willing to spend money on building a championship ..they have been burnt by Davis's complete bust. Went on a limb for Ubaldo another bust.. Trumbo not much better. So why should these players stick around.. There is no clutch or playing inspired ball.. what about Buck getting the boot? Should build around Schoop, Mancini, Beckmann, Gentry, Smith, Gausman & Bundy.. this Hays kid looks good.. can't be much worst than what's happing on the field now... 

I've read a lot of things on this board, but "the Orioles should build around Gentry" has got to be a first.

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On 9/18/2017 at 11:00 AM, FlipTheBird said:

So you're suggesting punting the season? Chris Johnson struggles to start at AAA.

I can't believe the folks here that are ready to buy into any prospect we have as a sure thing. Mountacastle showed some promise this year, but the's years away.

.301/.330/.506 in limited time due to injury. Former productive major leaguer. Stop gap for a year. 

And, if you trade Manny, that's pretty much a punt already. Johnson is a reasonable, low cost, low risk, short-term option.

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8 minutes ago, PaulFolk said:

I've read a lot of things on this board, but "the Orioles should build around Gentry" has got to be a first.

I don't even know how to react to that, he's AAAA depth at best.  If the O's are building around Gentry, then they should be building around Chris Dickerson too because he's a better player.  IMO, the only reason Gentry is on the team is because he's Buck's buddy,  maybe he can transition to coaching.

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We should all just get prepared for Machado not being traded, signing a huge FA deal with another team after 2018 and the O's receiving nothing but a compensation pick in return. I'll be shocked if there's any other outcome given this team's history under Angelos.

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4 minutes ago, bluedog said:

We should all just get prepared for Machado not being traded, signing a huge FA deal with another team after 2018 and the O's receiving nothing but a compensation pick in return. I'll be shocked if there's any other outcome given this team's history under Angelos.

Me too.   In fact, I won't even be disappointed when that happens, because it's been foreshadowed for years.    Rather, I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's traded for a good return.   

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Me too.   In fact, I won't even be disappointed when that happens, because it's been foreshadowed for years.    Rather, I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's traded for a good return.   

Yep, the writing has been on the wall for awhile now.

I'd be absolutely floored if they lock him up this offseason.  They've got a lot of money coming off the books, maybe this is what they've been waiting for.  

Now if they don't lock up Manny, they better focus on Schoop.

In regards to the names that have been bandied about in this thread, there's no one to really get excited about.  

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15 minutes ago, bluedog said:

We should all just get prepared for Machado not being traded, signing a huge FA deal with another team after 2018 and the O's receiving nothing but a compensation pick in return. I'll be shocked if there's any other outcome given this team's history under Angelos.

What would be more depressing, Manny playing his last home game as an Orioles this weekend vs the Rays, him walking next year for a draft pick? Ugh. It will be painful for him to leave either way, but I know the rational thing is to get a big return for him now. 

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On 9/19/2017 at 8:39 PM, NCRaven said:

.301/.330/.506 in limited time due to injury. Former productive major leaguer. Stop gap for a year. 

And, if you trade Manny, that's pretty much a punt already. Johnson is a reasonable, low cost, low risk, short-term option.

Johnson's last productive MLB season was 2013. Installing him as a starter is essentially throwing up the white flag and saying "we're trying to finish last."

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5 minutes ago, Gman!! said:

Ok ok .. not Gentry .. maybe just thinking of speed.. & I know not as many @ bats but hell of a better average  than Davis or Trumbo .. puts bat on ball better than just looking @ strike 3  90% of the time. 

If the Orioles wanted to give Gentry his bench position back that'd be just fine. He's a good fit there, and he's certainly be a nice little piece to have in 2017. But he's not a regular player. And he's 33.

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