Orioles: Most inept organization in all of profesional sports?

[atomic]

Also why would it be ridiculous to fire a manager whose team finished in last place the season before and is getting blown out in most games.   Buck I bet is in top 5 in seniority with one team among current managers and also some of the guys above him have won world series with their teams. 

[El Gordo]

13 minutes ago, atomic said:

Trembleys first year the team won 69 games. 

Comparing Buck to Trembley is ludicrous.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, atomic said:

Also why would it be ridiculous to fire a manager whose team finished in last place the season before and is getting blown out in most games.   Buck I bet is in top 5 in seniority with one team among current managers and also some of the guys above him have won world series with their teams. 

15 games just isn’t much.   The Dodgers are 4-9.   And I don’t think you fire a guy who’s taken your team to the playoffs three times in the last six years that lightly.    If the O’s are 18-36 at the end of May I’d think his seat would be starting to get warm.   

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Comparing Buck to Trembley is ludicrous.

Yes, but I don’t think Trembley was that awful.    His teams weren’t very talented or experienced.   But the year he got fired he was like a deer in the headlights in his postgame pressers.     Class guy.

[El Gordo]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

15 games just isn’t much.   The Dodgers are 4-9.   And I don’t think you fire a guy who’s taken your team to the playoffs three times in the last six years that lightly.    If the O’s are 18-36 at the end of May I’d think his seat would be starting to get warm.   

Exactly. The thread is titled Time to fire Buck. 14 G is not the time. There may come a time though I doubt it but that time is not now.

[El Gordo]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Yes, but I don’t think Trembley was that awful.    His teams weren’t very talented or experienced.   But the year he got fired he was like a deer in the headlights in his postgame pressers.     Class guy.

I liked Trembley, he loved the game, but he's no Buck which was my point.

[$Greatness$]

This is our punishment for not making any meaningful moves in 2015 after we were 4 games away from a World Series appearance! Our karma has caught us and we'll pay dearly for that injustice. With that said, no need to fire Buck. His suffering will come to an end at the twilight of our season. 2012 will always be my most memorable Oriole season with Buck. That was a fun year.  

[FanSince88]

As much as I disagree with some of bucks decisions, i think he might be the biggest reason the team hugely outperformed their projections between 2012 and 2016.  His teams overachived for five straight seasons.  They were also somehow overachieving last year up until September despite a complete dumpster fire at sp and horrible years from the two biggest “sluggers”.  Id be ok with bringing him back.

[Moose Milligan]

13 hours ago, atomic said:

Casey Stengel. 

What about him?

[atomic]

32 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

What about him?

Managed Yankees to 7 World Series victories including 5 straight.   Managed Mets to worst season in MLB history.   Overall winning percentage in 4 seasons was 32 percent. 

[Moose Milligan]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Managed Yankees to 7 World Series victories including 5 straight.   Managed Mets to worst season in MLB history.   Overall winning percentage in 4 seasons was 32 percent. 

Right.  

So if we're making a comparison here, the 2018 Orioles are the Mets.  

[pastorfan]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

15 games just isn’t much.   The Dodgers are 4-9.   And I don’t think you fire a guy who’s taken your team to the playoffs three times in the last six years that lightly.    If the O’s are 18-36 at the end of May I’d think his seat would be starting to get warm.   

They are not going to fire Buck. Maybe he doesn't come back next year, but they will not fire him. Such player turnover next year that it might make sense to bring someone else in anyway. 

[25 Nuggets]

We all know the more the Orioles lose the more this thread is going to gain steam.  We're going to get to at least 50 pages, folks.  Draw the battle line and take your sides.

[gtman55]

3 hours ago, FanSince88 said:

As much as I disagree with some of bucks decisions, i think he might be the biggest reason the team hugely outperformed their projections between 2012 and 2016.  His teams overachived for five straight seasons.  They were also somehow overachieving last year up until September despite a complete dumpster fire at sp and horrible years from the two biggest “sluggers”.  Id be ok with bringing him back.

I agree with everything you wrote except the last line. I think next year should see big changes and a frest start. From the GM and manager on down.

[Dipper9]

I love Buck, and he's the second best manager in Orioles history behind Earl.

That said, he's too old school.  This team relies on sitting back and waiting for the home run ball.  There is no creativity to the offense.  The coaching staff doesn't appear to be able to make adjustments to improve the pitchers or hitters when they get into funks, and Buck is too loyal to his guys to ever take players' performance out on his coaching staff.  All in all, this team needs a total rebuild.  We need to get away from the "home run or no run" offense.  At this point we need to trade all the guys who are on their last year, and add Schoop to the list as well.  And as much as I love Buck, I think after this season we need to let him go and bring in a younger manager who is willing to be creative with the team.  

That all said...I think Buck is resigned to a new contract after Duke is let go when his contract expires this year, and we have more of the same for the next 3-5 years.  I have pretty much come to the realization that I will never see another World Series Champion in Baltimore in my lifetime.