Jump to content

Orioles: Most inept organization in all of profesional sports?

foxfield

By foxfield
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

Aglets Hangout Grand Counsel

Aglets

Posted
Posted

What probably should happen (again, assuming that Buck played a big role in the Davis/Trumbo/Tillman contracts), is that he should have some of that roster control power taken away from him.   Now if he isn't willing to accept being "just" the on-field manager.......then we have a real pickle.  Not sure how that conversation would go.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 767
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Gmoney600 Newbie

Gmoney600

Posted
Posted

This team clearly needs a new voice. Its not that Buck hasnt done a great job but sometimes it takes different approach to make things click. You cant have your team strikeout 10+ Times a game and not address your hitting coaching. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sportsfan8703 Hangout Grand Counsel

sportsfan8703

Posted
Posted
16 minutes ago, Gmoney600 said:

This team clearly needs a new voice. Its not that Buck hasnt done a great job but sometimes it takes different approach to make things click. You cant have your team strikeout 10+ Times a game and not address your hitting coaching. 

This is the worst constructed team we’ve had since 2011. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dark Helmet Hangout Grand Counsel

Dark Helmet

Posted
Posted

You know what? I'm convinced, get rid of Buck. I honestly don't care at this point. It's not even may yet and I've basically tuned out to this team. They have exceeded by expectations in one thing...i figured they would atleast keep in it somewhat until July or August. Atleast they never made it to a point to collapse. 

Jones and Manny can't go soon enough. I can't watch them go through the motions anymore. They don't want to be here. That's obvious atleast to me it is. Cobb has insured we will never sign another SP ever again. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ORIOLE33 Major Leaguer Rising Star

ORIOLE33

Posted
Posted
54 minutes ago, Gmoney600 said:

This team clearly needs a new voice. Its not that Buck hasnt done a great job but sometimes it takes different approach to make things click. You cant have your team strikeout 10+ Times a game and not address your hitting coaching. 

Exactly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
OsFanSinceThe80s Hangout Grand Counsel

OsFanSinceThe80s

Posted
Posted
17 minutes ago, ORIOLE33 said:

Exactly.

This seems to happen with Buck at every stop.  Initial success, but eventually he wears out his welcome.  Worst part is I don't know what quality of manager the Orioles can target as his replacement.  

This requires some outside of the box thinking.  Best bet is look for a young up and comer.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Herman Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Herman

Posted
Posted

Buck has absolutely nothing to do with the failures of this team. It is a severely flawed roster that was put together by a clueless and out-of-touch front office. They will be lucky to win 70 games especially in the AL East

Link to comment
Share on other sites
OsFanSinceThe80s Hangout Grand Counsel

OsFanSinceThe80s

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Herman said:

Buck has absolutely nothing to do with the failures of this team. It is a severely flawed roster that was put together by a clueless and out-of-touch front office. They will be lucky to win 70 games especially in the AL East

Buck may have had input on Tillman, Davis, Trumbo and other signings.  Buck is not without blame.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Herman Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Herman

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Buck may have had input on Tillman, Davis, Trumbo and other signings.  Buck is not without blame.  

True, but Trumbo and Tillman's contracts aren't killing the team. However, Chris Davis' contract will likely go down as one of the worst in MLB history. Word is that Angelos is largely responsible for that 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
OsFanSinceThe80s Hangout Grand Counsel

OsFanSinceThe80s

Posted
Posted
Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Buck is certainly the one putting Davis in against left handed pitching and giving Caleb this much playing time.

Sisco looks good enough defensively to me to play a majority of the games.  Caleb is too much of a black hole on offense.  I thought Caleb would be able to bridge the gap for a year while Sisco got prepared to be the full time catcher.

Swing and a miss.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Herman Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Herman

Posted
Posted

Buck isn't the one who put together a roster that is currently on pace to break the record for strikeouts in a season. This is a severely flawed roster that plays in the same division as two teams that spend a ton of money and know how to draft.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • wildcard
      RHH Outfield Targets

      By wildcard · Posted

      Let  Westy  play 3B vs right handed pitching and LF vs left-handed pitching.    Urias can play 3B vs lefties.   This is only needed if Cowser can't hit lefties. Mateo and Westy can be platoon in the outfield IMO.
    • Aristotelian
      RHH Outfield Targets

      By Aristotelian · Posted

      O'Neil seems like a perfect fit if he doesn't cost too much in years or dollars.   
    • sportsfan8703
      Still think this team didn't choke under pressure?

      By sportsfan8703 · Posted

      I don’t think we choked. Stubborn as hell. We literally went down with the same sinking ship philosophy that we had the entire 2nd half of the season.  The young guys just have to adjust. I mean getting completely shut down for 5 post season games has to wear on them. If it doesn’t, then we were never built to win. 
    • sportsfan8703
      RHH Outfield Targets

      By sportsfan8703 · Posted

      Right now the 2025 OF has three LHH OF in Cowser, Mullins, and Kjerstad. I’m not sure what the bench makeup of this team will be, but it looks like we’ll need 1-2 RHH options.  We could bring Slater back on a small “Tony Kemp” like 1 year deal or a milb deal.  With Santander leaving, and Mateo back to being in the CF mix once healthy, do we go with a more COF RHH type? Trades are a possibility as well, but here is a list of upcoming RHH OF Free Agents,    
    • Jagwar
      Offseason Trade Pondering

      By Jagwar · Posted

      I actually didn't suggest a reliever as the return, that was SG. I was thinking more about trading veterans to acquire pitching prospects, probably lower level lottery tickets. I'd rather pick up ML roster pieces through free agency (assuming of course that Rubenstein will allow a significant payroll boost.).
    • Jammer7
      Co-hitting coach Ryan Fuller, Fredi Gonzalez and Jose Hernandez let go

      By Jammer7 · Posted

      Each player is different. Each player may have a somewhat different hitting philosophy, based on their strengths and weaknesses. Not everyone is a “power hitter.” I would not coach a Tony Santander the same as a Jordan Westburg, or a Jorge Mateo, or a Cedric Mullins. Some should be more selective, while others may need to do more damage and it’s ok for them to K more because the power payoff is worth it. Some should have a more oppo approach, while others may need to try to pull the ball more. The Waltimore certainly has messed with many of our RH bats.  Being a hitting coach is a lot of work, and it is usually not often a position held for many years. They seem to often be a scapegoat when the players do not hit. I wonder what drove the players to swing more at pitches they probably should not have. I seriously doubt it was Ryan Fuller. Hitting coaches have a general philosophical approach, like Fuller would have hitters learn to take pitches they cannot hit well, with less than 2 strikes.. He wanted them to swing only at pitches they can do damage with. They do not dramatically change. For the Orioles to become much more free swinging, that must have driven Fuller to leave. So be it. Going forward, they probably need to be somewhere in between the previous two years. In the playoffs, they get pitched to differently. It’s higher intensity. You have to be proficient in putting the ball in play. You have to be able to take what the game gives you, and execute. There is no excuse for repeatedly having runners in scoring position with less than two outs and repeatedly not being able to get them home. Bases loaded, no outs, hitters 2,3 and 4 coming up…we have to score there. The approach was to hit a grand slam. Awful baseball. A ton of talent on this roster, and something has to change. 
    • wildcard
      Do we agree that developing Kjerstad RF, Holliday 2B and Mayo 1B/DH.......

      By wildcard · Posted

      I have been pretty happy with Kjerstad's defense in the outfield corners.   Not that I want him in left at home.     I agree with what Elias said about Mayo's body type being more suited for 1B.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...