1988 v. 2018 W/L Tracker

[TonySoprano]

We all know that 1988 started 0-21.  The 2018 birds started 6-15 to take a commanding 6 game lead over their 1988 counterparts.  However, the 1988 team fought back,  and went 14-21 over the next 35 games to climb with 3 games of the 2018 team who have gone 11-24 over that same stretch of games.

1988 14-42
2018 17-39
Follow along with the 1988 team here to see who ends up on top...in the race to the bottom... https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/1988-schedule-scores.shtml

[TonySoprano]

2018's lead has shrunk to 2 games over the 1988 squad.
2018 19-45
1988 17-47

In 2017, after 64 games the Orioles were 32-32.  Since then they are 62-100.  A 17-12 August last season, put the Orioles 2 games over .500.  After that it's been 26-66 .283.  

It's mind-boggling that they have played this poorly for so long.  Don't tell me you knew it was going to be this bad because that's total Barbra Streisand.

 

[Moose Milligan]

I thought they could win anywhere from 68-72 games. 

Not surprised it's this bad, though.  It's the most Oriolish thing ever.

[Aglets]

Can we add the 2003 Detroit Tigers to the tracker?

As far as I know that is the worst record for any team that played the full 162.

Through 64 games the 2003 Tigers were 16-48.

[atomic]

35 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

2018's lead has shrunk to 2 games over the 1988 squad.
2018 19-45
1988 17-47

 In 2017, after 64 games the Orioles were 32-32.  Since then they are 62-100.  A 17-12 August last season, put the Orioles 2 games over .500.  After that it's been 26-66 .283.  

It's mind-boggling that they have played this poorly for so long.  Don't tell me you knew it was going to be this bad because that's total Barbra Streisand.


  

On any other team changes would have been made by now.  Managers fired, coaches let go, players DFA, trades made.  The Orioles just don't do anything. 

[webbrick2010]

6 minutes ago, atomic said:

On any other team changes would have been made by now.  Managers fired, coaches let go, players DFA, trades made.  The Orioles just don't do anything. 

Lets hope they are determined to get #1 pick, that's the best outcome for this season

[TonySoprano]

55 minutes ago, Aglets said:

Can we add the 2003 Detroit Tigers to the tracker?

As far as I know that is the worst record for any team that played the full 162.

Through 64 games the 2003 Tigers were 16-48.

The '62 Mets played 160 games, but yeah, Detroit has the worst 162 game mark.  They drafted Verlander the next year, 2nd overall (that was when draft picks alternated back and forth between leagues).

BTW, 2004 was also the year Flanagan and Beattie wanted to draft either Chris Nelson or Stephen Drew at SS.  At the very last moment, in the draft room, Angelos demanded they draft a college pitcher (at slot money, no more) and so we got...... Wade Townsend, 8th overall.  Townsend was later ruled ineligible and went back into the 2005 draft.  In 2005, the Orioles used the comp pick for Garrett Olson.  Andy MacPhail did what he loved to do, trade with the Cubs, and in 2009 dealt Olson (and Henry Williamson) for Felix Pie.  Three seasons in Baltimore, Pie had an OPS+ of 85 (which blows away his 56 OPS+ the 2 years prior in Chicago).

Detroit 2003 - https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/2003-schedule-scores.shtml

[OriolesMagic83]

1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

I thought they could win anywhere from 68-72 games. 

Not surprised it's this bad, though.  It's the most Oriolish thing ever.

That's so Orioles.

[OFFNY]

5 hours ago, Aglets said:

 

Can we add the 2003 Detroit Tigers to the tracker ???

As far as I know, that is the worst record for any team that played the full 162.

Through 64 games, the 2003 Tigers were 16-48.

 

o

 

In the modern era (1901 - Present), the top/bottom 3 are the 1916 Philadelphia Athletics (36-117 with one rainout), the 1935 Boston Braves (38-115 with one rainout), and the 1962 Mets (40-120 with 2 rainouts.)

 

Those are good (bad) for .235, .248, and .250 winning percentages, respectively.

 

Going all the way back to 1876 (the birth of the National League), the 1899 Cleveland Spiders went 20-134 (a .130 winning percentage.)

 

http://writing.jmpressley.net/sports/worstseasons.html

 

o

[TonySoprano]

1988 18-47

2018 19-46

The 1988 Orioles dropped 7 of the following 10, so it'll take a 2-8 run to tie them.

[Barnaby Graves]

7 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

1988 18-47

2018 19-46

The 1988 Orioles dropped 7 of the following 10, so it'll take a 2-8 run to tie them.

We will likely lose 12 of the next 10 games to take a commanding 3 game lead.  I like our guys.

[TonySoprano]

5 minutes ago, Barnaby Graves said:

We will likely lose 12 of the next 10 games to take a commanding 3 game lead.  I like our guys.

The Marlins and Twins are the only teams we'll play with a losing record in the next month.

[sportsfan8703]

And this is all pre sell off. We need to just burn it down. Don’t try and get guys close to the majors. This won’t be fast. We need a five year plan, three #1 picks, trade for a bunch of “high end” guys in A ball, sign players in the carribean, and hope it only takes 5 years. 

Oh and you probably shouldn’t be reaching for a position of “need” with your 2nd pick in the draft, because have you seen the team, the whole roster is a position of need. 

[TonySoprano]

Currently, 2 games better than the '03 Tigers.  Starting game #66 they hit a huge slide and didn't win game #19 until the 80th game of the year.

[TonySoprano]

I must be really bored so I went further into the comparisons.  After the 0-21 start, the next longest losing streaks were 5 (2X) and 4 (6X).  Already this year, there have been losing streaks of 7 (3X), 6, and 5 (2X).

Get to the point, Soprano.
O.K. after going 0-21, the 1988 squad went 54-86 the rest of the way, .415 baseball.
Notably, from June-August the 1988 team went 35-47 .427 before again collapsing to an 8-21 finish, including dropping 8 of the last 9. 

Fast forward 30 years, since last September, 26-69 .274.  Just to match the June-August .427 mark, the team still needs to go 32-36 .471 for the next 10 weeks. 

The bottom line is unless this team regains its footing and plays at a pace that it hasn't done since last August, the gap between 1988 and 2018 is going to grow and not in a good way. The 1988 team is going to start looking more like the better squad of the two.

Have a nice summer!