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11 hours ago, foxfield said:

Decent?

AM is better than decent and he is doing pretty well in Philly... and he has taken several guys from here.  DD did pretty well until he was diminished...even if he bears some responsibility for that happening.  If you think the problem is DD you miss the reason why AM is in Philly.  Sorry dude, but we can literally have every GM in baseball and if they are hampered by ownership, it won't change squat.

Andy is not the GM in Philly. He is the president of baseball operations, and a GM over hin.

So its hard to tell exactly what impact Andy has had on the team.

Note, I am not trying to take anything away from the guy, I respect him, but we need to be fair too.

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1 minute ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Wouldn't the GM be under him?

Good question.

This is how their wiki page lists it:

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Front office
Owner(s) Phillies limited partnership (John S. Middleton (Principal Owner),[6] Jim & Pete Buck, David Montgomery, Pat Gillick)[7]
Manager Gabe Kapler
General Manager Matt Klentak
President of Baseball Operations Andy MacPhail
 
   
   
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I believe a GM is above a baseball president of operations.

Why is that hard to understand?

 

Because it’s wrong.   Just look around baseball.   And MacPhail hired Klentak (who also worked under him in Baltimore), not the other way around.   

If you want a better idea of the Phillies’ management structure, try this page of their website:  https://www.mlb.com/phillies/team/front-office

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Because it’s wrong.   Just look around baseball.   And MacPhail hired Klentak (who also worked under him in Baltimore), not the other way around.   

So the Orioles List DD as General Manager and Brandy as VP of Baseball Operations.

So with this reasoning, Brandy would be the king, if he was president and not VP?

 

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1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

So the Orioles List DD as General Manager and Brandy as VP of Baseball Operations.

So with this reasoning, Brandy would be the king, if he was president and not VP?

 

Huh?

Dan's title is Executive Vice President, Baseball Operations.

O's don't have a GM.

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4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

So the Orioles List DD as General Manager and Brandy as VP of Baseball Operations.

So with this reasoning, Brandy would be the king, if he was president and not VP?

 

Duquette is the Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations.   That’s higher than Vice President of Baseball Operations.    There is no President of Baseball Operations here, though Andy MacPhail held that title when he was here.    At the time, Mike Flanagan was Executive Vice President and since he wasn’t fired, they gave MacPhail a higher title.

https://www.mlb.com/orioles/team/front-office

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Huh?

Dan's title is Executive Vice President, Baseball Operations.

O's don't have a GM.

My apologies, I should not base anything on wiki.

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After spending 9 years away from the MLB, Duquette returned as the General Manager of the Baltimore Orioles in November 2011

 

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Just now, Frobby said:

Duquette is the Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations.   That’s higher than Vice President of Baseball Operations.    There is no President of Baseball Operations here, though Andy MacPhail held that title when he was here.    

https://www.mlb.com/orioles/team/front-office

My apologies to all

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