What is the first thing you want the O's to do this off season?

[Greg Pappas]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Not a fight I'd be interested in winning.

We know very little, outside of the comments above. However, if the 25-year old Cano is determined to be a potentially special talent, why wouldn't you have an interest?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

We know very little, outside of the comments above. However, if the 25-year old Cano is determined to be a potentially special talent, why wouldn't you have an interest?

I don't want to pay a price beyond what those two are willing to pay.

[Greg Pappas]

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't want to pay a price beyond what those two are willing to pay.

That's just one of the reasons we never secure this kind of talent (again, if he is deemed worth the $). If I put my trust in my scouting department (hopefully a brand new SD) and they determine he's worth a $40m contract, then we should sign him for up to $40m. I don't care if the Yanks and Sox value him at only $30-35m.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 hours ago, waroriole said:

At this point, if you don’t fire everyone it’s just absurd. 

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

I bet O's ownership does not fire anyone.

Are you playing semantics with the word “fired?”    Or do you think Dan and Buck will both be resigned?    Yes, I know that technically they both have expiring contracts, but in common parlance, choosing not to bring someone back is tantamount to “firing” them.    Of course, they may not want to return; that’s a different story.

[waroriole]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

I bet O's ownership does not fire anyone.

I wouldn’t be surprised 

[wildcard]

10 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Are you playing semantics with the word “fired?”    Or do you think Dan and Buck will both be resigned?    Yes, I know that technically they both have expiring contracts, but in common parlance, choosing not to bring someone back is tantamount to “firing” them.    Of course, they may not want to return; that’s a different story.

There will be no firing.  Their contracts will expire.  Hard to fire someone that is not under contract in the MLB.

[waroriole]

This reminds me of the Auburn 2012 season. We had just won the national championship in 2010 with Gene Chizik, so there was a lot of good will coming into the season. However, it was an embarrassingly poor season. I believe worst in school history. Despite Chizik’s title two years ago, we had to fire him. He completely lost the team, as they just quit on him. Same thing has happened with Buck and Dan. No respect in the locker room for them, or with the fans. They have to go in order to start over. 

Good omen if they do fire everyone, Auburn was 13 seconds from a national championship the following year.

[Frobby]

10 minutes ago, wildcard said:

There will be no firing.  Their contracts will expire.  Hard to fire someone that is not under contract in the MLB.

OK, so you’re being a literalist.   Thanks for clarifying.    

If the O’s hire a new GM two weeks before DD’s contract expires, is that a firing?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

OK, so you’re being a literalist.   Thanks for clarifying.    

If the O’s hire a new GM two weeks before DD’s contract expires, is that a firing?

Since Dan isn't a GM I'd have to say no. 

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Since Dan isn't a GM I'd have to say no. 

Touche!   (I don’t know how to do accent marks.)

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

OK, so you’re being a literalist.   Thanks for clarifying.    

If the O’s hire a new GM two weeks before DD’s contract expires, is that a firing?

No,  he helps transition the new guy into his job.   Unless they tell him he is fired.

[tntoriole]

4 hours ago, spiritof66 said:

You're right. They may know the business well, they may understand the stupidity and destructiveness of what their father did, they may understand the team's present finances and have plans for future spending that make sense, and they may be honorable guys who will do what they say they will do. I'm dubious, but maybe so.

My point, though, is that I'm concerned that, without actually doing something more, the Orioles will have trouble convincing strong applicants to leave their current positions to join the management and on-field mess that is the Baltimore Orioles. Duquette wasn't giving up a promising future with another team to take the Orioles' job. I don't know of a candidate like that this time around, and IMO that's not the optimal profile for the next GM.

There will be plenty of assistant GMs who will give their right arm for the opportunity to be the guy.   I mean certain people decided to take positions in an administration even when led by...well, no, probably not going there.   But my point is, no matter the challenge, one of 30 jobs on the baseball planet will have candidates.  Do we have to take a bit of a risk, maybe a younger guy who might not get the Yankees or Dodgers gigs?  Sure, but that could be great. 

And there is the low expectation attraction...namely if I come into a disaster and it improves, well, I am a genius.  If it fails, well...you know, that Angelos sucks. It is an ideal situation to make a rep.   See Duquette...lol

[TonySoprano]

On 9/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, wildcard said:

There is also no economic uncertainty.  

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Under the agreement, MASN must re-set the teams’ right fees every five years to reflect fair market value. The dispute over the Nationals’ fee is over the five-year period from 2012-16. The network still needs to address the five-year period from 2017-21.

The two decisions combined likely will involve hundreds of millions of dollars, significantly impacting the financial picture of both clubs.

Rosenthal - https://theathletic.com/522471/2018/09/13/rosenthal-with-key-issues-to-resolve-the-orioles-are-in-a-state-of-confusion/

[Il BuonO]

The first thing I want the Orioles to do this offseason is DFA Chris Davis, but I won’t hold my breath.