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I found this from August.  Callis rates what the O's got in the trades and talks about some of the O's minor leaguers.  What he says is about the way I feel now. I do like Jonathan Villar  a little better than he does but then Jonathan has played better over the last 6 weeks since Callis recorded this.

Its a good listen:

http://www.glennclarkradio.com/2018/08/01/mlbpipelinecoms-callis-not-impressed-with-returns-orioles-got-in-gausman-schoop-deals

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Whammer Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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54 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I found this from August.  Callis rates what the O's got in the trades and talks about some of the O's minor leaguers.  What he say is about the way I feel now. I do like Jonathan Villar  a little better than he does but then Jonathan has played better over the last 6 weeks since Callis recorded this.

It a good listen:

http://www.glennclarkradio.com/2018/08/01/mlbpipelinecoms-callis-not-impressed-with-returns-orioles-got-in-gausman-schoop-deals

Don't really need to listen to this. Already know what he'll say. From list below, please check all that apply:

- O's got robbed in deadline trades, especially the Gausman deal

- O's front office in absolute chaos

- O's farm system stinks

- O's can't develop players even if they have talent in farm system

- Victor Victor ceiling is  Soto/Acuna unless the O's sign him. In that case,  he projects as a 4th OF.

- Blah, blah, blah

#DeadHorseBeaten.

 

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1 hour ago, Whammer said:

Don't really need to listen to this. Already know what he'll say. From list below, please check all that apply:

- O's got robbed in deadline trades, especially the Gausman deal

- O's front office in absolute chaos

- O's farm system stinks

- O's can't develop players even if they have talent in farm system

- Victor Victor ceiling is  Soto/Acuna unless the O's sign him. In that case,  he projects as a 4th OF.

- Blah, blah, blah

#DeadHorseBeaten.

 

Nope. To address your points

- Says they should have waited till the off season if they did not get good value of Gausman and Schoop.

- Didn't talk about the front office

- Says the farm system is 15-20th in baseball

- Does not talk about player development.

- Says that VVM may makes the Gausman deal look better.

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Says the O's have some good talent coming and talking about several players.

Doesn't think salary dumping Gausman by adding O'Day was a good long term strategy for a rebuilding team.

Says Bobby Witt Jr would be a good #1 selection in the draft.  Someone to build around.

Says the rebuild will take a long time.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Nope. To address your points

- Says they should have waited till the off season if they did not get good value of Gausman and Schoop.

- Didn't talk about the front office

- Says the farm system is 15-20th in baseball

- Does not talk about player development.

- Says that VVM may makes the Gausman deal look better.

Additionally:

Says the O's have some good talent coming and talking about several players.

Doesn't think salary dumping Gausman by adding O'Day was a good long term strategy for a rebuilding team.

Says Bobby Witt Jr would be a good #1 selection in the draft.  Someone to build around.

Says the rebuild will take a long time.

 

 

I'm kind of interested in that OSU catcher as well.   Having a great catcher could be a great building block.  Of course, having a great shortstop wouldn't be bad, either.

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13 minutes ago, atomic said:

That is a very depressing interview.   I wonder if the team drafts someone 1 overall who isn't the #1 overall in talent to save money on the signing bonus.

Is there ANY evidence of the O's not spending all their allotted money since the draft slots were implemented?

 

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2 minutes ago, atomic said:

So this year's number 1 overall was 7.5 million and year before was 7.3 million.  Will the Orioles pay someone that kind of money for a prospect?  I am going out on a limb and say they try picking someone that will sign under slot.  

Wieters got 6 mil so 7 isn't a stretch.

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Nope. To address your points

- Says they should have waited till the off season if they did not get good value of Gausman and Schoop.

- Didn't talk about the front office

- Says the farm system is 15-20th in baseball

- Does not talk about player development.

- Says that VVM may makes the Gausman deal look better.

Additionally:

Says the O's have some good talent coming and talking about several players.

Doesn't think salary dumping Gausman by adding O'Day was a good long term strategy for a rebuilding team.

Says Bobby Witt Jr would be a good #1 selection in the draft.  Someone to build around.

Says the rebuild will take a long time.

 

 

O's need to hire Callis or Rosenthal or Gammons or  some-other-random-baseball-blogger as their next GM. They're drop-dead experts with all the things the O's are doing wrong.

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3 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Who does represent the consensus view?  And what do you think it is?

I don’t think there is a completely consensus view.    Opinions vary pretty widely.   I’d say there is some consensus that of the four trades, Gausman was the most questionable.   

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I don’t think there is a completely consensus view.    Opinions vary pretty widely.   I’d say there is some consensus that of the four trades, Gausman was the most questionable.   

Callis indicate that Gausman's trade was the weakest of theO's  trades.  So why doesn't Callis' view represent the consensus view?

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Callis indicate that Gausman's trade was the weakest of theO's  trades.  So why doesn't Callis' view represent the consensus view?

I have not listened to the podcast.   But if I recall from other articles quoting him, he didn’t like any of the trades very much.  For example, he said he was “underwhelmed” by the Manny trade.    The general consensus was much more positive.   

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