The Victor Victor Mesa/Sandy Gaston thread

[weams]

3 minutes ago, MDtransplant757 said:

You sure? If you have your Cuban ID Card with you when you land in the US, you are automatically granted citizenship according to federal law passed under the kennedy administration. Are they officially citizens of the DR? 

I'm sure. 

[weams]

1 minute ago, weams said:

I'm sure. 

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Green Card for a Cuban Native or Citizen

The Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966 (CAA) allows Cuban natives or citizens living in the United States who meet certain eligibility requirements to apply to become lawful permanent residents (get a Green Card).

This page provides specific information for Cuban natives and citizens in the United States who want to apply for lawful permanent resident status based on the CAA. This is called “adjustment of status.”

LIVING in the US. Not visiting from the DR on a work visa. They both established residence in DR.

[weams]

1 hour ago, Santandah said:

He also drove a ball 463 ft at 109.3 MPH on 9/7/18. Didn't say he was a good guy. 

Did not like him because he was a strange guy. Not because he did not have some skills. 

[weams]

Supposedly Miami got Sandy. 

[Roll Tide]

57 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

1.2 era? When, in high school? Cashner was awful for two straight years (2015, 2016). His 2017 season was the outlier. You don't give back end rotation guys with 5+ eras multi-year contracts. 

 

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	ERA+	FIP	WHIP	H9	HR9	BB9	SO9	SO/W	Awards
2010	23	CHC	NL	2	6	.250	4.80	53	0	9	0	0	0	54.1	55	31	29	8	30	5	50	4	1	4	248	89	5.03	1.564	9.1	1.3	5.0	8.3	1.67
2011	24	CHC	NL	0	0		1.69	7	1	0	0	0	0	10.2	3	2	2	1	4	0	8	0	0	0	39	239	3.87	0.656	2.5	0.8	3.4	6.8	2.00
2012	25	SDP	NL	3	4	.429	4.27	33	5	5	0	0	0	46.1	42	23	22	5	19	1	52	1	0	2	196	85	3.55	1.317	8.2	1.0	3.7	10.1	2.74
2013	26	SDP	NL	10	9	.526	3.09	31	26	2	1	1	0	175.0	151	68	60	12	47	3	128	4	0	5	707	111	3.35	1.131	7.8	0.6	2.4	6.6	2.72
2014	27	SDP	NL	5	7	.417	2.55	19	19	0	2	2	0	123.1	110	42	35	7	29	3	93	1	0	2	506	132	3.09	1.127	8.0	0.5	2.1	6.8	3.21
2015	28	SDP	NL	6	16	.273	4.34	31	31	0	0	0	0	184.2	200	111	89	19	66	2	165	6	0	3	804	86	3.85	1.440	9.7	0.9	3.2	8.0	2.50
2016	29	TOT	NL	5	11	.313	5.25	28	27	1	0	0	0	132.0	142	83	77	19	60	3	112	7	0	3	588	76	4.84	1.530	9.7	1.3	4.1	7.6	1.87
2016	29	SDP	NL	4	7	.364	4.76	16	16	0	0	0	0	79.1	80	47	42	13	30	0	67	6	0	1	347	84	4.95	1.387	9.1	1.5	3.4	7.6	2.23
2016	29	MIA	NL	1	4	.200	5.98	12	11	1	0	0	0	52.2	62	36	35	6	30	3	45	1	0	2	241	66	4.68	1.747	10.6	1.0	5.1	7.7	1.50
2017	30	TEX	AL	11	11	.500	3.40	28	28	0	0	0	0	166.2	156	75	63	15	64	0	86	9	1	10	704	142	4.61	1.320	8.4	0.8	3.5	4.6	1.34
2018	31	BAL	AL	4	15	.211	5.29	28	28	0	0	0	0	153.0	177	97	90	25	65	3	99	3	0	6	681	78	5.32	1.582

It’s simple dude ... his career ERA is 4.02 and his 2018 was 5.29 ...so yeah between 1.2 and 1.3 of his career ETA. I’m sure the Orioles were hoping for his career ERA. 

They did what it took to get him here and if they got the 4.02 he’d been well worth 2 years and the exercisable 3rd year option.

I don’t get your point! Who were they going to get genius?

Hes making only 8 million per season when good starters are getting 15 per and great starters 20-25.

I think they did fine with the contracts and money. If Cashner rebounds this year he can be traded at the deadline and will have the extra year of control.

For the 2018 Orioles a whole lot went wrong as for 1/2 the season each of their starters were bad.

I think you have a hate Agenda... it’s just not factual considering the circumstances. Tillman was the horrible move We agree on that.

My questions for you... tell me the 3 starters you were going to sign for 28 million in annual value that were available?

and remember the other top starter likely turned the Orioles down to take the 1 year deal elsewhere. 

[Roll Tide]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Supposedly Miami got Sandy. 

That has to be a good sign for US ... fingers crossed ... I think MesaMesa was always taking the money and getting his brother is a bonus

[mdbdotcom]

3 minutes ago, weams said:

Supposedly Miami got Sandy. 

Wouldn't that be Miami Beach?

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

4 minutes ago, weams said:

Supposedly Miami got Sandy. 

Is he a pitching prospect?  Is he highly touted?  

[Moose Milligan]

1 hour ago, Malike said:

Interview of Victor Mesa (father). He was a legendary Cuban baseball player. At the end he said he’s certain his life will be shared between Cuba and Miami. This is probably the most definitive sign of the Marlins being a front runner for the Mesa Bros.https://t.co/NOyX2cSTux

— Luis Davila (@luisrdavi) October 4, 2018

 

Beyond that he explains how much sense it makes for Miami to sign both his sons. This is honestly looking like a done deal to me. Mike Hill was named dropped. Wow. I think it’s time we get excited.

— Luis Davila (@luisrdavi) October 4, 2018

Oh, I thought playing in Miami and being Cuban wasn't a factor?  

Not done yet but it ain't looking good.

[weams]

4 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Is he a pitching prospect?  Is he highly touted?  

https://www.fishstripes.com/2018/7/24/17606984/marlins-sandy-gaston-positive-ped-drug-test-international-free-agency-prospects-2018-2019

Their previous deal fell apart due to A PED issue. 

[weams]

 

[Malike]

3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Oh, I thought playing in Miami and being Cuban wasn't a factor?  

Not done yet but it ain't looking good.

Might not be a factor if the Dodgers, Cubs or Yankees are involved. When the choices are Baltimore or Miami, and your Dad wanting you to play in Little Havana, it probably is.

[weams]

 

[Moose Milligan]

Done.  And done.  

 

[weams]