Which of the 2012-16 Orioles would you put in the Orioles HOF?

[Frobby]

Multiple choice poll, vote for as many as you’d like.    Amazing to think that 9 of these 10 guys are no longer in the organization, and we wish the 10th guy was too.

There’s actually one other player I would have liked to have listed as a candidate, but the poll only let me list 10.

[Moose Milligan]

All except O'Day, Schoop.

I know we like to bash on Davis but he was a key component to those teams.  He probably won't make the O's HOF if this keeps up but he was a contender for awhile.

[TonySoprano]

Should go and will go are two different questions; the latter is a larger group.  Machado is the one exception in that he should go, but won't, because his post-Orioles career should be much longer before he retires.

Jones is a no-brainer.  Add Markakis and Hardy. 

Two/three years ago, they would've considered Davis but not now.   Britton is one that will get the nod given he's only 18 saves behind the Otter for the all-time team leader.   Wieters may get in since he's only a dozen games (and 12 RBI) behind Hoiles in games played for Baltimore.   That raises the debate of best Orioles catcher between Dempsey, Hoiles, and Wieters.  I think we've also had the debate about Tillman before, and to me, he will go, but I don't think he should.  No to Schoop and O'Day.

[Frobby]

11 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Should go and will go are two different questions; the latter is a larger group.  Machado is the one exception in that he should go, but won't, because his post-Orioles career should be much longer before he retires.

Jones is a no-brainer.  Add Markakis and Hardy.

Two/three years ago, they would've considered Davis but not now.   Britton is one that will get the nod given he's only 18 saves behind the Otter for the all-time team leader.   Wieters may get in since he's only a dozen games (and 12 RBI) behind Hoiles in games played for Baltimore.   That raises the debate of best Orioles catcher between Dempsey, Hoiles, and Wieters.  I think we've also had the debate about Tillman before, and to me, he will go, but I don't think he should.  No to Schoop and O'Day.

You realize, of course, that you didn’t vote for Markakis?

I haven’t voted yet, but will probably vote for O’Day.    6th most appearances of any Orioles pitcher and a huge part of the team’s success in ‘12 and ‘14.

[TonySoprano]

Just now, Frobby said:

You realize, of course, that you didn’t vote for Markakis?

I haven’t voted yet, but will probably vote for O’Day.    6th most appearances of any Orioles pitcher and a huge part of the team’s success in ‘12 and ‘14.

I missed the part about voting for more than one.

[Can_of_corn]

15 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Should go and will go are two different questions; the latter is a larger group.  Machado is the one exception in that he should go, but won't, because his post-Orioles career should be much longer before he retires.

Jones is a no-brainer.  Add Markakis and Hardy. 

Two/three years ago, they would've considered Davis but not now.   Britton is one that will get the nod given he's only 18 saves behind the Otter for the all-time team leader.   Wieters may get in since he's only a dozen games (and 12 RBI) behind Hoiles in games played for Baltimore.   That raises the debate of best Orioles catcher between Dempsey, Hoiles, and Wieters.  I think we've also had the debate about Tillman before, and to me, he will go, but I don't think he should.  No to Schoop and O'Day.

Roberto Alomar made it and he only played three seasons with the O's.

[TonySoprano]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Roberto Alomar made it and he only played three seasons with the O's.

I used to know some of the people who actually did the voting.  The Orioles wanted the annual ceremony, so the voters were strongly encouraged to be more generous with their selections than I might have been. (should go vs. will go)

[wildcard]

All of them.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

I used to know some of the people who actually did the voting.  The Orioles wanted the annual ceremony, so the voters were strongly encouraged to be more generous with their selections than I might have been. (should go vs. will go)

I think that by year eleven of the rebuild they will be scrapping the bottom of the barrel for names.

[Frobby]

By the way, my 11th candidate would have been Wei-Yin Chen.  46-32, 3.72 ERA in his four years as an Oriole.   Got us a draft pick, too.

[Enjoy Terror]

For me, Jones and Markakis were the only ones, and it was a function of longevity, impact, and how much I felt they were “Mr. Oriole”.

Hardy I was conflicted about because he’s my favorite Oriole. He was certainly here for awhile but I never felt that he was a fan favorite or carried the team or lead the clubhouse. Solid defender. Did a great deal of damage in a Brewers uniform (but that never stopped Frank I suppose).

Davis was well liked for a time, but his one trick pony act isn’t enough. I have similar feelings about Britton— impactful for one great season but overall an Oriole career full of disappointments (more true of Davis than Britton).

Then there’s Machado. An otherworldly ballplayer who I never felt was actually playing for the Orioles, but instead for himself. Never cared for the personality but his stats were appreciated. He’ll be a famous something or other this year but never a famous Oriole. (Also see: CC Sabathia, Indians).

The other four I don’t feel like I need to explain.

[weams]

25 minutes ago, Frobby said:

By the way, my 11th candidate would have been Wei-Yin Chen.  46-32, 3.72 ERA in his four years as an Oriole.   Got us a draft pick, too.

Low bar. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Low bar. 

Limbo.

[Frobby]

38 minutes ago, weams said:

Low bar. 

Just saying I would put him on the list of candidates, not that I’d necessarily vote for him.    But when you look at post-Mussina starting pitchers, who has done better?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Just saying I would put him on the list of candidates, not that I’d necessarily vote for him.    But when you look at post-Mussina starting pitchers, who has done better?

I thought Weams was saying that the bar for the Orioles HoF was low.

I haven't looked at the numbers but it wouldn't surprise me if Chen had outperformed some members.