Anyone got nine more years? ...

[Redskins Rick]

It doesnt sound like Andy has too much say in what happens in Philly.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/gabe-kapler-fired-phillies-manager-matt-klentak-john-middleton

[JR Oriole]

4 hours ago, Frobby said:

Soto is a better hitter than anyone on the 2012-16 Orioles IMO. 140 OPS+ over two seasons and he’s still two weeks away from his 21st birthday.    There’s no doubt in my mind he’ll be one of the top 5 hitters in baseball during the 2020’s.

I really enjoy watching Soto.  If you watch his at-bats, after each pitch he doesn't hit, he does this sort of shimmy with his lower body while staring and nodding at the pitcher.  He has a very intimidating plate presence that is fun to see.  Sort of like how David Ortiz was at the plate, only (somehow) more confident. 

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, JR Oriole said:

I really enjoy watching Soto.  If you watch his at-bats, after each pitch he doesn't hit, he does this sort of shimmy with his lower body while staring and nodding at the pitcher.  He has a very intimidating plate presence that is fun to see.  Sort of like how David Ortiz was at the plate, only (somehow) more confident. 

 

[Frobby]

4 hours ago, dmvsports410 said:

At the end of the day they are in the playoffs, and have better ownership. Nobody thought they would make the playoffs or get this far since losing Harper. I give credit where credit is do. 

Nobody thought that?    I, for one, thought the loss of Harper would have minimal impact with Soto and Robles both getting full seasons in.  

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Nobody thought that?    I, for one, thought the loss of Harper would have minimal impact with Soto and Robles both getting full seasons in.  

The Nats main Achilles heel as been their pen.

[Tony-OH]

16 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

 

"Soto is a left-handed hitter with advanced feel for hitting and projection for power," said Nationals director of Latin American operations, Johnny DiPuglia. "He profiles as a corner outfielder with a solid arm and good instincts."

Nationals signed Soto for $1.5 million as a 16-year old. This is the kind of impact players we have to find in Latin America if we are to compete consistently one day. We have to hope Perez will hit some gold like DiPuglia did with Soto. Soto is the real deal. He's a generational talent that was signed for 2nd round money.

[Redskins Rick]

9 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

"Soto is a left-handed hitter with advanced feel for hitting and projection for power," said Nationals director of Latin American operations, Johnny DiPuglia. "He profiles as a corner outfielder with a solid arm and good instincts."

Nationals signed Soto for $1.5 million as a 16-year old. This is the kind of impact players we have to find in Latin America if we are to compete consistently one day. We have to hope Perez will hit some gold like DiPuglia did with Soto. Soto is the real deal. He's a generational talent that was signed for 2nd round money.

Good point with Soto on why this team should be looking to the international players and future prospects, of course, there will be duds along the way, but nothing ventured is nothing gained.

[Tx Oriole]

19 hours ago, wildcard said:

The way I remember it MacPhail wanted Eric Wedge but Buck wowed Peter in the interview.  Andy left a season later.    I don't know if it was protest.  I think Andy just didn't like the business arrangement and decided to leave at the end of his contract instead of staying on as President/GM.   He also wanted to spend time with his father who was ill.

Others can tell me is my memory is right or not.

You may be right. I can’t remember. I would not have wanted to work for Peter Angelos longer than I had to. 

[tntoriole]

2 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Andy didn't want to hire Buck in the first place. I doubt he'll be calling him in Philadelphia.

agreed...though it sounds as if owner John Middleton directly fired Kapler himself over Klentak’s opinion and is likely to be more active in the new manager hire than is probably good.  Sort of like a certain owner we all know was too involved in hiring and firing previous managers. 

[Redskins Rick]

14 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

You may be right. I can’t remember. I would not have wanted to work for Peter Angelos longer than I had to. 

I believe he opted to leave at the end of his contract in 2011, because of the health of his father.

His father died in 2012.

Andy went back to work in 2015.

[Tx Oriole]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

I believe he opted to leave at the end of his contract in 2011, because of the health of his father.

His father died in 2012.

Andy went back to work in 2015.

Oh I see.

[Frobby]

56 minutes ago, wildcard said:

And Tony's apparently.  I just don't think MacPhail would hire Buck in Philly.

I just think you’re both speculating.   That doesn’t mean you’re wrong.   

1.    Andy wanted Wedge.

2.   Andy left after Buck had been here one full season.

3.   You therefore conclude Andy wouldn’t want Buck to be the manager.

Personally I think that’s a leap.    There really weren’t any reports of friction between Andy and Buck while both were here.     Andy’s stated reason for leaving was he wanted to spend time with his ailing father.     Maybe that was just a polite way to get out of a situation he wasn’t crazy about, but it’s tough to say the real reason was Buck.   As I said, Buck was highly complimentary of Andy when he left.   Something like “one of the most honorable men I have met in my years in baseball.”

Again, I’m not saying you and Tony are wrong, but I do think you don’t have much to go on (unless Tony knows things he’s not saying).

 

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I just think you’re both speculating.   That doesn’t mean you’re wrong.   

1.    Andy wanted Wedge.

2.   Andy left after Buck had been here one full season.

3.   You therefore conclude Andy wouldn’t want Buck to be the manager.

Personally I think that’s a leap.    There really weren’t any reports of friction between Andy and Buck while both were here.     Andy’s stated reason for leaving was he wanted to spend time with his ailing father.     Maybe that was just a polite way to get out of a situation he wasn’t crazy about, but it’s tough to say the real reason was Buck.   As I said, Buck was highly complimentary of Andy when he left.   Something like “one of the most honorable men I have met in my years in baseball.”

Again, I’m not saying you and Tony are wrong, but I do think you don’t have much to go on (unless Tony knows things he’s not saying).

 

Why in the world at this point, knowing the things I've written and been told, that you would think I'm just speculating or giving an "opinion on this?"

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Why in the world at this point, knowing the things I've written and been told, that you would think I'm just speculating or giving an "opinion on this?"

Because nothing in your post suggested you were relying on things you’d been told.    If now you’re saying you heard things, fine.   I have no reason to doubt you.   
 

PS — have you written on this before?   If so, I don’t remember it.  

[TonySoprano]

2 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Andy didn't want to hire Buck in the first place. I doubt he'll be calling him in Philadelphia.

One could say Buck's success proved Sweater Vest Andy wrong.  If Andy doesn't accept that, then Buck wouldn't be a candidate. However,  I'd like to believe Andy would be more open-minded to a reunion.   That is unless there was some unreported friction between the two.