Hangouter's Top 30 Prospects lists

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, John Welch said:

I don't disagree with that offensively. I think it's fairly reliable with defense. 

I think an equivalent amount of data from 2017 paints a different picture of his defense.

[7Mo]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think an equivalent amount of data from 2017 paints a different picture of his defense.

Could be. I haven't looked at that. 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, John Welch said:

Could be. I haven't looked at that. 

Neither have I honestly, I just remember him looking rough out there and Buck talking about the second deck.

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Neither have I honestly, I just remember him looking rough out there and Buck talking about the second deck.

I was at a game in 2017 where he made a spectacular leaping catch up against the RF scoreboard running pretty much full speed.    I don’t think he played consistently well defensively during that 2017 stint, but the play I saw showed me the tools he has.    Also, he’s got the arm.    
 

Edit: here’s the play I’m talking about.

https://www.mlb.com/video/hays-leaping-grab-c1847089483

[weams]

24 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Hays lower than 7?

Yeah. Just because of the injuries and fact that he is still eligible here is a fluke. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Yeah. Just because of the injuries and fact that he is still eligible here is a fluke. 

Is it a fluke when the team specifically sat him to maintain his eligibility?

[weams]

24 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I can see someone not being swayed by a hot three weeks.  He didn't exactly kill it in AAA.

Just stay healthy. I'll love again.

[ChuckS]

1 hour ago, weams said:

I like Knight more than Tony and Luke do. Or did. I have no idea where they have him now. Maybe #1? Henderson does not need to show me much. I'll give him three years. Like he was a college guy. 

I’m hoping there was something else going on when he was at Frederick. Considered not even including him on my list, but he was so dominant in Delmarva it didn’t quite add up how hard he fell on his face after the promotion. So somewhere in the 20’s is probably fair. 

With any high school bat there is such a high probability of failure that it’s hard for me to justify a top ten ranking in a deep system. Henderson could be a top five prospect in a year. Or he could be off the list completely. Who knows. 

[Tony-OH]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Just saying, how much weight do you give 21 games in the majors?

Last 25 games in AAA once he got his timing down.

.303/.349./505./854 

[Tony-OH]

13 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

I’m hoping there was something else going on when he was at Frederick. Considered not even including him on my list, but he was so dominant in Delmarva it didn’t quite add up how hard he fell on his face after the promotion. So somewhere in the 20’s is probably fair. 

With any high school bat there is such a high probability of failure that it’s hard for me to justify a top ten ranking in a deep system. Henderson could be a top five prospect in a year. Or he could be off the list completely. Who knows. 

Knight struggled to command anything and once he met hitters that just didn't swing, but actually had a plan he struggled.

[ChuckS]

2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Knight struggled to command anything and once he met hitters that just didn't swing, but actually had a plan he struggled.

Is the talent gap that significant between low and high A ball?

I don’t expect Knight in the top 30 then based on your evaluation. He certainly pitched like a non-prospect when he was at Frederick, so I can’t argue if there were no other factors at play. 

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, weams said:

Move Pop and Sedlock and Ortiz up and Hays down a few and I'm in. 

I think Pop is a good bet to rebound. I'd have him higher also. I'm no prospect guru. So I'll defer to people that invest a lot more time at it. But IMO, Pop is the next great closer!

[tntoriole]

1. Adley Rutschman

2. Grayson Rodruguez

3. DL Hall 

4.  Hunter Harvey

5. Ryan Mountcastle

6. Austin Hays

7. Yusniel Diaz

8. Keegan Akin

9. Dean Kremer

10. Gunnar Henderson

11. Zac Lowther

12. Michael Baumann

13. Adam Hall

14. Ryan McKenna

15. Kyle Stowers

16. Rylan Bannon

17. Drew Rom

18. Bruce Zimmermann

19. Mason McCoy

20. Dillon Tate

21.  Zach Watson

22. Blaine Knight

23. Zach Pop

24. Alex Wells

25. Jean Carmona

26. Cadyn Grenier

27. Cody Sedlock

28. Gray Fenter

29. Brenan Hanifee

30. Leonardo Rodriguez. 

 

 

[Roll Tide]

21 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

1. Adley Rutschman

2. Grayson Rodruguez

3. DL Hall 

4.  Hunter Harvey

5. Ryan Mountcastle

6. Austin Hays

7. Yusniel Diaz

8. Keegan Akin

9. Dean Kremer

10. Gunnar Henderson

11. Zac Lowther

12. Michael Baumann

13. Adam Hall

14. Ryan McKenna

15. Kyle Stowers

16. Rylan Bannon

17. Drew Rom

18. Bruce Zimmermann

19. Mason McCoy

20. Dillon Tate

21.  Zach Watson

22. Blaine Knight

23. Zach Pop

24. Alex Wells

25. Jean Carmona

26. Cadyn Grenier

27. Cody Sedlock

28. Gray Fenter

29. Brenan Hanifee

30. Leonardo Rodriguez. 

 

 

Tate is no longer in my top 30. I think he's a AAAA player.

[Can_of_corn]

53 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

1. Adley Rutschman

2. Grayson Rodruguez

3. DL Hall 

4.  Hunter Harvey

5. Ryan Mountcastle

6. Austin Hays

7. Yusniel Diaz

8. Keegan Akin

9. Dean Kremer

10. Gunnar Henderson

11. Zac Lowther

12. Michael Baumann

13. Adam Hall

14. Ryan McKenna

15. Kyle Stowers

16. Rylan Bannon

17. Drew Rom

18. Bruce Zimmermann

19. Mason McCoy

20. Dillon Tate

21.  Zach Watson

22. Blaine Knight

23. Zach Pop

24. Alex Wells

25. Jean Carmona

26. Cadyn Grenier

27. Cody Sedlock

28. Gray Fenter

29. Brenan Hanifee

30. Leonardo Rodriguez. 

 

 

I'm torn between being pleased you included Rodriguez and shocked you included Grenier.