Tony-OH Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 By the way, if Givens is on this roster at the start of 2020 I'll be shocked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interloper Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tony-OH said: If he's cheap enough, Gausman would be a good guy to go get this offseason and then see what he looks like in a relief role. I would agree, but my only hesitation is that the rotation is going to be so bad that eventually it would end up feeling like we should just give the guy some starts. I think if he's going to be a pure reliever going forward, it probably wouldn't be in Baltimore where he used to be at the top of the rotation. If I had to guess, he'll go to Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphDogg Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Tony-OH said: By the way, if Givens is on this roster at the start of 2019 I'll be shocked. I have some bad news for you... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan8703 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, weams said: It sure sounds like it. Down to the studs. I think we know now why there will be no fan fest this year. At this point just finish the job. Meaning trade Mancini and Givens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Rick Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tony-OH said: I'm not sure how much trade value either player has, but I think it's pretty clear almost no one is off the table, to include Mancini if the offer is right. As many holes in this team, I would not image anybody is untouchable, if the right offer is made. Hopefully, we can get production out of some of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony-OH Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, interloper said: I would agree, but my only hesitation is that the rotation is going to be so bad that eventually it would end up feeling like we should just give the guy some starts. I think if he's going to be a pure reliever going forward, it probably wouldn't be in Baltimore where he used to be at the top of the rotation. If I had to guess, he'll go to Toronto. But this is where we have to trust that everything the Orioles are doing fits their strategic objectives. I've always thought Gausman could be a great late inning reliever with his fastball, change combination. If we could get him under a million, why not? Might be able to flip him if he pitches well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony-OH Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, MurphDogg said: I have some bad news for you... HAha, I'll fix that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tony-OH said: If he's cheap enough, Gausman would be a good guy to go get this offseason and then see what he looks like in a relief role. His salary jumped to $9.35M last season. What kind of deal does anyone think he will get this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interloper Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said: But this is where we have to trust that everything the Orioles are doing fits their strategic objectives. I've always thought Gausman could be a great late inning reliever with his fastball, change combination. If we could get him under a million, why not? Might be able to flip him if he pitches well. Absolutely. From a baseball perspective, I'm totally on board with that. I just don't know if Gausman has any option at all, that he would choose to come back to Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interloper Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, TonySoprano said: His salary jumped to $9.35M last season. What kind of deal does anyone think he will get this year? I think it's possible he gets like 1/$3 from somebody if the market remains aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybenxtyr Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Roll Tide said: I'd want more ...at least 1 prime player (top 100) and a couple of other guys. I expect them to be miles away .... Do you think the Royals would do Witt JR for Mancini? Is that last sentence serious? I'm going to assume you're joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony-OH Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, TonySoprano said: His salary jumped to $9.35M last season. What kind of deal does anyone think he will get this year? Good question and I guess it depends on who thinks he has what left in the tank. He was released and non-tendered this year. Somebody will probably give him something more than the Orioles should, but if they could get him as a NRI or on a cheap, Nate Karns like deal, they should do it and move in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Milligan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 As much as I didn't like him, I'd be down for a Gausman return, especially if looked at for a bullpen role. No denying the talent, I just thought he never really could harness it. But there are some things to like there, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybenxtyr Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 12 hours ago, Can_of_corn said: Maybe Elias keeps Mountcastle down all season to delay his service clock? He'll be retiring around the time of the next window if they time it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tony-OH said: Good question and I guess it depends on who thinks he has what left in the tank. He was released and non-tendered this year. Somebody will probably give him something more than the Orioles should, but if they could get him as a NRI or on a cheap, Nate Karns like deal, they should do it and move in the bullpen. I think he’ll get more than what you have in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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