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5 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

And even over this "hot" 25 games, he's just been a league average hitter. 

How many "league average" hitters are in the Orioles' lineup? 
Since his May 25th call-up little Yaz has a WAR of 0.6 to go with .256/.311/.476/.787
Min 40 AB,  here are the Orioles over the same stretch

PLY               AB  HR  RBI   BA         OBP    SLG        OPS
Severino      64    3    11    0.344    0.397    0.531    0.928
Mancini       90    6    11    0.311    0.388    0.578    0.966
Alberto        95    0    7      0.305    0.340    0.326    0.666
Villar            91    4    11   0.264    0.340    0.462    0.802
Santander  59    1    6      0.254    0.308    0.373    0.681
Nunez         91    5    13   0.242    0.303    0.473    0.776
Broxton      72    2    4     0.194    0.216    0.306    0.522
Martin Jr.   58    2    3     0.190    0.242    0.310    0.552
Smith          44    2   13    0.182    0.302    0.341    0.643
Ruiz             58    0    6    0.172    0.226    0.190    0.416
Wilkerson   59    1    5    0.169    0.234    0.271    0.505

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I still contend that if his name was Mike Jones nobody would particularly care that the O's never called him up and that the Giants claimed him.  If the O's call up Chris Bostick and he goes 11 for his first 35 I'm going to find the Pirates' fansite and see if they're freaking out.  Has anyone found the Jays' version of wildcard and checked on him, since Dwight Smith Jr and all?

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1 minute ago, TonySoprano said:

Since his May 25th call-up little Yaz has a WAR of 0.6 to go with .256/.311/.476/.787
min 40 AB  here are the Orioles over the same stretch

PLY               AB    HR    RBI    BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Severino      64    3    11    0.344    0.397    0.531    0.928
Mancini       90    6    11    0.311    0.388    0.578    0.966
Alberto        95    0    7    0.305    0.340    0.326    0.666
Villar            91    4    11    0.264    0.340    0.462    0.802
Santander   59    1    6    0.254    0.308    0.373    0.681
Nunez         91    5    13    0.242    0.303    0.473    0.776
Broxton      72    2    4    0.194    0.216    0.306    0.522
Martin Jr.   58    2    3    0.190    0.242    0.310    0.552
Smith         44    2    13    0.182    0.302    0.341    0.643
Ruiz            58    0    6    0.172    0.226    0.190    0.416
Wilkerson  59    1    5    0.169    0.234    0.271    0.505

If we had a crystal ball we could make a 96-win team out of minor league players by picking and choosing who to play during their hot streaks and who to bench when they're going to get cold.

Or you could flip it around and inflict Yaz' .603 OPS in a month in AA last year on some unsuspecting team.

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Just now, DrungoHazewood said:

If we had a crystal ball we could make a 96-win team out of minor league players by picking and choosing who to play during their hot streaks and who to bench when they're going to get cold.

Or you could flip it around and inflict Yaz' .603 OPS in a month in AA last year on some unsuspecting team.

Completely missing the point.  Dismissed as a "league average hitter" which he could very well be, but that's something the Orioles are sorely lacking.  TEAM OPS+ 85

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Just now, TonySoprano said:

Completely missing the point.  Dismissed as a "league average hitter" which he could very well be, but that's something the Orioles are sorely lacking.  TEAM OPS+ 85

Do you think it's sustainable?  Do you think he's going to be a ML regular in two seasons?

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6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Do you think it's sustainable?  Do you think he's going to be a ML regular in two seasons?

I don't care if it is or it isn't, nor am I bemoaning trading him, or even saying we could use him.  IF we ever see guys like Hays in our line-up, no one (well, there may be one exception) is going to be saying they wish we had Little Yaz Instead.


The Orioles TEAM OPS is 25th in MLB.  Again, it's solely about dismissing a player that over the stretch in question would be 3rd on the team.  

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2019.shtml

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Just now, TonySoprano said:

I don't care if it is or it isn't, nor am I bemoaning trading him, or even saying we could use him.  IF we ever see guys like Hays in our line-up, no one (well, there may be one exception) is going to be saying they wish we had Little Yaz Instead.


The Orioles TEAM OPS is 25th in MLB.  Again, it's solely about dismissing a player that over the stretch in question would be 3rd on the team.  

I don't think they are ever going to get to the point that they can predict that sort of thing.  It's a blip.

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52 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I still contend that if his name was Mike Jones nobody would particularly care that the O's never called him up and that the Giants claimed him.  If the O's call up Chris Bostick and he goes 11 for his first 35 I'm going to find the Pirates' fansite and see if they're freaking out.  Has anyone found the Jays' version of wildcard and checked on him, since Dwight Smith Jr and all?

 

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49 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Completely missing the point.  Dismissed as a "league average hitter" which he could very well be, but that's something the Orioles are sorely lacking.  TEAM OPS+ 85

Who are you going to cut so that the 28-year-old corner OF with the .780 minor league OPS could play?  26-year-old Dwight Smith?  27-year-old Stevie Wilkerson, who can at least try to play about five or six positions?  I guess Broxton is about the same player, except he can play center.  24-year-old Santander?  Going into the season Cedric Mullins had about the same minor league performances, he can play center, and he's four years younger.  I don't think you'd give DJ Stewart's at bats to Yaz, not since he's three years younger. 

The Orioles don't have a shortage of plausibly decent corner OFers, almost all of whom are much younger and might actually have a shot at being on the roster of the 2022 Orioles.

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12 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Lots of players with Yaz' resume managed to carve out a 7-year MLB career.  But you could say exactly the same thing about half a dozen other OFers in the upper levels of the O's system.  Yaz is Dwight Smith Jr, just older.

I did say regular not fringe guy at the end of the bench.

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39 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Lots of players with Yaz' resume managed to carve out a 7-year MLB career.  But you could say exactly the same thing about half a dozen other OFers in the upper levels of the O's system.  Yaz is Dwight Smith Jr, just older.

He’s a better defender than Dwight Smith Jr.

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