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Load management. It is stupid for players to run at one hundred percent effort all the time. It is a long season and managing health over the course of the season greatly outweighs the slight potential benefit gained by running all out on each and every individual routine play. 

Look at how much more useful Austin Hays is to the team when he is in the lineup and not on the shelf because he ran into a wall.

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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

But not with the center fielder not bothering to back up the play.

Double negative.  I can't think of any CF in baseball that backs up a routine fly to RF unless he sees the RF waiving like he can't see it.  I thought, from the replay, the CF did a great job getting over there.

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5 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Load management. It is stupid for players to run at one hundred percent effort all the time. It is a long season and managing health over the course of the season greatly outweighs the slight potential benefit gained by running all out on each and every individual routine play. 

Look at how much more useful Austin Hays is to the team when he is in the lineup and not on the shelf because he ran into a wall.

Again, running hard, 100%, and jogging are three separate things. 

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3 hours ago, RZNJ said:

There's a difference between running hard and running 100%.  Players should run hard on even routine plays but it's just human nature/frustration on a play like that.  The odds are long. Hey I just saw a pitcher get a comebacker and underhand the throw over the first baseman's head.  They should run hard on every play but I suspect if we were in the same situation we'd do the same thing Trey did.

Yes, I did say "run hard" not "run 100%" as some seem to be implying I said. You are not going to injure yourself by simply running hard without straining. Maybe the solution is a compromise by running somewhere between "casual trot" and "hard run" on all such plays. 

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2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Again, running hard, 100%, and jogging are three separate things. 

 Yes, three separate things. You are not going to injure yourself by simply running hard without straining. And the few times per game doing that should not significantly tire out an elite athlete during the course of a season. Maybe the solution is a compromise by running somewhere between "jogging" and "hard run" on all such plays. We know there have been baseball managers who've fined players for lack of hustle on such plays. But I agree that tiredness towards the end of a long season is a real problem. You might want to hear HOFer Willie Stargell explain how he overcame his perennial September physical tiredness: tinyurl (dot) com/Stargell1

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

By the way, I timed Trey’s trip around the bases at 17.3.   That’s definitely extremely slow for an inside the park homer.   I tried to find what was the slowest known inside-the-parker, but didn’t have any luck.  

Wasn’t there a big man (prince fielder?) little league home run that was ungodly slow some years back?

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20 minutes ago, Natty said:

He looked like he was really running out of gas as he rounded third.  

Yes, that was my favorite part. He was running down the third base line like he had a piano on his back. Thank god he didn't run hard to first base cause he never would have made it.

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I thought all baseball fans knew and understood that historically when a  ball is lost in the sun or lights, it is not ruled  an error on the defense. Personally, for years,  I wondered why that was,  because if the defender had taken a better angle on the ball he would  not have lost track of it, probably.  But that is the way it has been for the 70+ years I have been following baseball.  

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4 hours ago, OrangeOctoberRebuild said:

You are not going to injure yourself by simply running hard without straining.

Players get hurt running hard often enough and those rare injuries (typically reaggravating a minor nagging injury) results in worse outcomes for the team (multiple missed games) that more than offset the benefit of running hard on every single routine flyout (perhaps a couple extra bases a season for an entire team).

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