Are the Red Sox Better Than the Orioles (on Paper)?

[HakunaSakata]

After this trade and the Duvall signing, I think they might be.  

2023 Projected Lineup

1. M. Yoshida (OF)
2. E. Hernandez (2B)
3. . R. Devers (3B)
4. J. Turner (DH)
5. . A. Verdugo (OF)
6. . T. Casas (1B)
7. A. DuVall (OF)
8, A. Mondesi (SS)
9. R. McGuire (C)

SPs - 1. Sale, 2. Kluber, 3. Pivetta, 4. Whitlock, 5. Paxton
RPs - Jansen, C. Martin, Schreiber, Barnes, Houck, etc.

 

[Moose Milligan]

Yes.

[Frobby]

I don’t think so, but they could be.   Neither the Duvall signing or this trade makes a big difference to my opinion.  The Red Sox have a lot of players who could either be very good or pretty bad. If things break their way, they could be better than us; if not, they’ll be considerably worse.   

[Sports Guy]

Their rotation could be very good or complete garbage. It’s tough to say. 

[OriolesMagic83]

A lot depends on if Sale can at least be a regular starter.  If he is, their rotation looks a lot better than ours.  I think the O's lineup is still better. 

[OriolesMagic83]

13 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I don’t think so, but they could be.   Neither the Duvall signing or this trade makes a big difference to my opinion.  The Red Sox have a lot of players who could either be very good or pretty bad. If things break their way, they could be better than us; if not, they’ll be considerably worse.   

I can easily see the Red Sox winning 70 or 90 games or anywhere in between.  Lots of injury prone guys.  Lots of lineup guys who could be solid or waiver wire guys.

[LTO's]

It's pretty interesting to see how people respond to a player like Adam Frazier compared to guys like Duvall and Mondesi.

[maybenxtyr]

I think they're in the same boat as Baltimore. 

 

They could win 90 or 70... either way it really wouldn't be a shocker.

[btdart20]

A lot less risk in the O's starting line-up IMO.  I'll take our offense and fielding all day/every day vs. theirs.  Pitching, Sales' health means the world to that rotation.  Kluber and Paxton are wildcards with a ton of upside too.  And there's Bello in the mix.  I like our top BP guys better than theirs, at least at this stage of their careers.

I think we have a winning percentage against them head-to-head in 2023.

[Pickles]

 Mondesi moves the needle?  LOL.

He makes Adam Frazier look like Roberto Alomar.  

[btdart20]

21 minutes ago, LTO's said:

It's pretty interesting to see how people respond to a player like Adam Frazier compared to guys like Duvall and Mondesi.

Is Mondesi better than Mateo? 

Mondesi's 2018 season was a fantasy baseball gem though!

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, btdart20 said:

Is Mondesi better than Mateo? 

Mondesi's 2018 season was a fantasy baseball gem though!

I don’t think Mondesi is better than Mateo.  He’s a slightly better hitter and not as good defensively.  

[HakunaSakata]

17 minutes ago, Pickles said:

 Mondesi moves the needle?  LOL.

He makes Adam Frazier look like Roberto Alomar.  

He's a significantly better player than Frazier (when healthy). And the Red Sox only need him to stay healthy for 1/2 a season until Story comes back. So in that sense, yes he does move the needle (on paper). 

[Sports Guy]

33 minutes ago, LTO's said:

It's pretty interesting to see how people respond to a player like Adam Frazier compared to guys like Duvall and Mondesi.

Duvall makes much more sense for our situation although he would have been pretty far down my list of players to acquire.

[HakunaSakata]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I don’t think Mondesi is better than Mateo.  He’s a slightly better hitter and not as good defensively.  

If you want to knock him for his health then maybe not, but in terms of per game production I think he's quite a bit better than Mateo.