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It’s been an eventful few games for Mateo.

- Four stolen bases in the first two games.

- Made a throwing error on what could have been the 27th out of Game 1, but Bautista bailed him out by striking out the next batter.  

- Got spiked on the hand while stealing 3B in Game 2.  For a few minutes it seemed like his hand was trembling uncontrollably, though he may have been shaking it intentionally to relieve the sting.  

- Dropped a grounder and then threw too high to 1B for an error in game 4, but also made 3-4 nice plays ranging well to the right of 2B.

- Hit a titanic 433-foot homer in game 4.

Overall, he’s at .300/.417/.600 at the plate.   He’s had a couple of bad at bats, but only has struck out twice in 13 PA, while drawing two walks as well.  He’s hit the ball the other way for a couple of hits, too.   I think he’s had a pretty decent approach in the early going.  Hope he keeps it up.



 

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I was leaning toward giving Urias more starts at 3B with Gunnar at SS, but Mateo has been proving me wrong. If he can sustain .700 OPS along with his speed he could continue to hold down SS until Holliday. He's definitely been a positive story in the earlygoing.

Only question is what to do with Urias as Mateo at SS pushes him off his best position. 

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2 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I was leaning toward giving Urias more starts at 3B with Gunnar at SS, but Mateo has been proving me wrong. If he can sustain .700 OPS along with his speed he could continue to hold down SS until Holliday. He's definitely been a positive story in the earlygoing.

Only question is what to do with Urias as Mateo at SS pushes him off his best position. 

Urias is the odd man out. He can still start 4 times a week between 2B, 3B, and DH.

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2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Urias is the odd man out. He can still start 4 times a week between 2B, 3B, and DH.

Maybe not if Mateo continues last year's 80 OPS+, but if he can sustain 90 OPS+ that might be enough. It is true, as great as Urias plays 3B, Mateo's defense is more valuable and it's not like Urias is an .850 OPS guy, he is just slightly above average. 

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I thought Mateo was done after getting spiked in the hand. He couldn’t stop the hand from shaking. That was pretty hard to watch. 
 

He’s been having a good season. You get to see him range a little bit more because of the no shifting. I think his stolen bases make pitchers less likely to walk him. So he should see some better pitchers this year. Not every pitchers can throw sliders away. Very fortunate for us. 

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2 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

I was leaning toward giving Urias more starts at 3B with Gunnar at SS, but Mateo has been proving me wrong. If he can sustain .700 OPS along with his speed he could continue to hold down SS until Holliday. He's definitely been a positive story in the earlygoing.

Only question is what to do with Urias as Mateo at SS pushes him off his best position. 

I don’t care if his OPS is .400, his OBP is the only thing that matters. If he gets on base in the .350 range, he is an asset to the team. A walk to him or a single is almost an automatic double(if no one is on second already).  He creates havoc with the pitching. He is the perfect lead off hitter of the 80s and 90s if he can get on base 35% of the time or more. 
I have said it before, but this team is built for the new rules/bases and the moved back LF wall. Bullpen and defense have been the problem so far and both will be better in the near future. 

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1 hour ago, sevastras said:

I don’t care if his OPS is .400, his OBP is the only thing that matters. If he gets on base in the .350 range, he is an asset to the team. A walk to him or a single is almost an automatic double(if no one is on second already).  He creates havoc with the pitching. He is the perfect lead off hitter of the 80s and 90s if he can get on base 35% of the time or more. 
I have said it before, but this team is built for the new rules/bases and the moved back LF wall. Bullpen and defense have been the problem so far and both will be better in the near future. 

True, but OBP is a component of OPS and .350 would be a massive stretch for Mateo. .267 last year. Even .300 would be a nice incremental improvement. 

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If he gets on base in the .350 range, 

I'm not sure there will be more than 1 or 2 guys that have a .350 OBP this year for the O's, if that. That's probably too high a bar for Mateo. 

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15 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

That was such an unusual swing. I actually wonder if he should be pulling the ball more if he can pull it that far.

He pulled a high slider.   When he waits ton the ball he recognizes the slider but has trouble pulling the fastball.   That's just fine with me.   Hit the fastball the other way and pull the offspeed stuff that catches a lot of the plate.   When he has that approach he can recognize what type of pitch it is and his plate discipline is much better.

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