2023 Comp Round B (#63): Jackson Baumeister - RHP - (So) Florida State (FL)

[Just Regular]

So...we have a big time NCAA guy pulling Connor Norby-ish pool money from Elias.     Let's see how this develops.

Is he close to Povich on Monday's power rankings?

[baltfan]

Would have liked to have signed one of the high school kids too, but if they wouldn’t take what was left it’s hard to fault the Orioles.  I like the idea of taking a high end guy in the backend just in case one of the others falls through. 

[now]

19 hours ago, 86this said:

There's still some coin left.  Not sure what number Melewski thinks they have left.

 

Signing their top 16 picks, hard to argue with that.

[RZNJ]

19 hours ago, Just Regular said:

So...we have a big time NCAA guy pulling Connor Norby-ish pool money from Elias.     Let's see how this develops.

Is he close to Povich on Monday's power rankings?

Baumeister is lucky to be a top 30 guy at this point.  Nowhere close to Povich.

[LookinUp]

31 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Baumeister is lucky to be a top 30 guy at this point.  Nowhere close to Povich.

I'd say he's half way between Povich and #30. So #21ish. But we didn't draft him for what he's done. We drafted him for his traits. It's all about the potential upside, so his initial ranking isn't all that meaningful. 

[Frobby]

With all due respect to Tony, I don’t really care where he places the newbies on the list, until they’ve played in some pro games.  

[Tony-OH]

49 minutes ago, Frobby said:

With all due respect to Tony, I don’t really care where he places the newbies on the list, until they’ve played in some pro games.  

No disrespect at all because I don't put them on until they have played at least one game!  I have a general idea based off their profiles and draft status who will be on the lists and where though.

[Just Regular]

I'm curious to see the deployment of a bigger college bonus baby.     Trace Bright was as high as a college guy got last year - Auburn used him 80 innings, and the Orioles just 10 more.

Florida State only put 70 on Baumeister.

[baltfan]

kinda depressing Longenhagen has him #31 in the system.  Has him behind Denoyer and Rom, and far behind Lord. https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board?sortcol=1&sortdir=asc&org=bal

[Tony-OH]

8 hours ago, baltfan said:

kinda depressing Longenhagen has him #31 in the system.  Has him behind Denoyer and Rom, and far behind Lord. https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board?sortcol=1&sortdir=asc&org=bal

Why are you worried about where an evaluator put him after the draft? 

Let me say this, I have zero against Longenhagen or any other national evaluator, but if they put the kind of stuff Baumeister brings to the mound after a pitcher like Rom or Denoyer (who's stuff has taken a step back this year) then I'll just say they use a different evaluation criteria than me. The Orioles didn't give him $1.6 million because they think he might be a as good as Denoyer or Rom. 

[baltfan]

2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Why are you worried about where an evaluator put him after the draft? 

Let me say this, I have zero against Longenhagen or any other national evaluator, but if they put the kind of stuff Baumeister brings to the mound after a pitcher like Rom or Denoyer (who's stuff has taken a step back this year) then I'll just say they use a different evaluation criteria than me. The Orioles didn't give him $1.6 million because they think he might be a as good as Denoyer or Rom. 

Honestly, it concerns me because Longenhagen surely saw Baumeister and evaluated him for the draft. He knows about the stuff.  It’s less about the accuracy of his evaluation of Rom or Denoyer and more about that he clearly isn’t impressed by Baumeister especially given his position in relation to Lord who was drafted afterwards.  For a sophomore sign, I kinda expected a higher eval.   Of course, anyone can be wrong.  

[Tony-OH]

17 minutes ago, baltfan said:

Honestly, it concerns me because Longenhagen surely saw Baumeister and evaluated him for the draft. He knows about the stuff.  It’s less about the accuracy of his evaluation of Rom or Denoyer and more about that he clearly isn’t impressed by Baumeister especially given his position in relation to Lord who was drafted afterwards.  For a sophomore sign, I kinda expected a higher eval.   Of course, anyone can be wrong.  

Believe who want. Be concerned about what you want. I'll have him much higher.

[btdart20]

2 hours ago, baltfan said:

Honestly, it concerns me because Longenhagen surely saw Baumeister and evaluated him for the draft. He knows about the stuff.  It’s less about the accuracy of his evaluation of Rom or Denoyer and more about that he clearly isn’t impressed by Baumeister especially given his position in relation to Lord who was drafted afterwards.  For a sophomore sign, I kinda expected a higher eval.   Of course, anyone can be wrong.  

Longenhagen looks at a ton of players.  Tens of thousands?  National guys have their place, but it's a ton to piece together.  I'm sure he weighed the FSU stats like ERA a bit more than the individual skill sets that the O's looked at.  If nothing else there's a scale and efficiency thing to get the rankings done.

[baltfan]

33 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

Longenhagen looks at a ton of players.  Tens of thousands?  National guys have their place, but it's a ton to piece together.  I'm sure he weighed the FSU stats like ERA a bit more than the individual skill sets that the O's looked at.  If nothing else there's a scale and efficiency thing to get the rankings done.

No matter what he did it was likely more for a guy like this than anyone on the board.  Now after he was drafted, I am sure many have looked at as much film as they can and dug into the stats.  It’s natural for us to want national guys to be high on the guys we pick, but definitely not dispositive. 

[RZNJ]

29 minutes ago, baltfan said:

No matter what he did it was likely more for a guy like this than anyone on the board.  Now after he was drafted, I am sure many have looked at as much film as they can and dug into the stats.  It’s natural for us to want national guys to be high on the guys we pick, but definitely not dispositive. 

What were you hoping for?   There is a reason Baumeister got picked 63 and some had him rated lower.    At this point it all means nothing.   He throws 92-96 and just turned 21 and has good size.   I don’t care where he’s ranked now.   I care where he’s ranked at this time next here, hopefully after he’s made big strides.