The Padres as trade partners

[Just Regular]

Soto '24 bears some basic similarities to Ohtani '23.    No, the Orioles are never paying him his half-billion, but for one season one of the planet's greatest players will be on a 1/30-ish contract.

The Padres as trade partners would perhaps covet different stuff than the White Sox or Brewers, as a Soto change out would be about reconfiguring talent on a contender.    They might want Santander, Hays, Kremer, Wells, etc. in a way many other possible trading partners would not.

Buster hyping the product for Yankees local media earlier today.     One year of Soto vs. one year of Burnes an interesting contrast depending on how confident you feel in Grayson, Bradish and one other guy to cover three tournament starting roles.

 

[waroriole]

Santander is one year from FA too. Hays only has 2 years left. Doubt they’d want them. Maybe as part of the deal involving at least Cowser/Kjerstad and another Top 100ish player. 

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Santander is one year from FA too. Hays only has 2 years left. Doubt they’d want them. Maybe as part of the deal involving at least Cowser/Kjerstad and another Top 100ish player. 

I think the idea is that they can shed some payroll and still be able to compete in 2024.

[waroriole]

9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think the idea is that they can shed some payroll and still be able to compete in 2024.

Probably wouldn’t want Santander then. He’s projected around 12M. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, waroriole said:

Probably wouldn’t want Santander then. He’s projected around 12M. 

That's 21M less than the 33M Soto is projected at.

[RZNJ]

Not interested.

[Moose Milligan]

No way to tell and this is just a hunch, but I don’t see Soto aging well.  From what hat I can see on Statcast, his outfield range is terrible and his speed is bad. 
 

It’s a good thing OBP ages fairly well, he’s going to draw a lot of walks in his career and finish with an OBP over .400.  But I think in a few years he’ll be a 1B/DH type.   

[SemperFi]

 

The Padres are not in compliance with MLB's debt-service ratio, 

"The San Diego Union Tribune and The Athletic -- the latter of which first reported that the team took out a $50 million loan to address an end-of-season shortfall -- indicated that the Padres planned to cut payroll by about 20% to get into the neighborhood of $200 million in 2024. If that is indeed the case -- a source with knowledge of the Padres' financial presentation to the league office in September said $200 million wasn't identified as a hard-and-fast goal, though that doesn't necessarily mean the team doesn't aim to get there -- trading Soto might be the only clear path."

Trading Soto is the easiest way to get back in compliance, but they won't be taking on payroll.

[joelala]

2 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

No way to tell and this is just a hunch, but I don’t see Soto aging well.  From what hat I can see on Statcast, his outfield range is terrible and his speed is bad. 
 

It’s a good thing OBP ages fairly well, he’s going to draw a lot of walks in his career and finish with an OBP over .400.  But I think in a few years he’ll be a 1B/DH type.   

Would you want Yordan Alvarez?

[Roll Tide]

Trading Soto would be the easiest way.

 

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PADRES PAYROLL TOTALS 

• Active Payroll:$120,045,428
• Est. Arbitration Salaries:$45,000,000
• Est. Pre-Arbitration Salaries:$8,470,000
• Active Payroll:$120,045,428
• Retained:$12,260,000
• Active Total Payroll:$132,305,428
• Projected Total Payroll:$185,775,428

PADRES LUXURY TAX PAYROLL 

• 2024 Tax Threshold$237,000,000
• Total AAV/Tax Payroll:$165,447,012
• Est. Arbitration AAV/Payroll:$45,000,000
• Est. Pre-Arbitration AAV/Payroll:$8,470,000
• Est. Benefits:$17,000,000
• EST. Minor Buried Salaries:-Est. Minor Salaries:$2,250,000
• Total Tax Allocations$186,363,678
• Projected Total Tax Allocations: $239,677,238

Per Sportrac

Edited November 11, 2023 by Roll Tide

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, joelala said:

Would you want Yordan Alvarez?

why would they trade him? No chance IMO

[btdart20]

If SDP wants to compete and cut payroll, then a Santander-type trade is an option.  If they want to retool and cut payroll, then we’ve got options there too.  We should at least be at the table.  But know when to walk away…

Soto isn’t a plus OFer but he’s a plus hitter.  He’ll be 25 next season.  No need yo worry about that until his next contract.

His low K% and high BB% with power slots well in any lineup.

[Sports Guy]

26 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

why would they trade him? No chance IMO

That’s not his point.

[Sports Guy]

I would absolutely trade for him but I’m not giving up the top guys since he’s basically a rental.

Hays, Norby, Stowers, Wagner and a prospect like Trace Bright. 
 

I don’t think something like that gets done and a team like Yankees, who could/will sign him long term, would probably give more.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Sports Guy

[Roll Tide]

6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

That’s not his point.

Why discuss Alvarez if there is little to no chance they’d trade him? He doesn’t fix their problem. Plus they will surely want Holiday plus.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Roll Tide