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We had a 4 run cushion. We should not care what happens to Hendrickson as he is quite expendable. Pitch him until his arm falls off as long as it saves the bullpen for our younger starters when we will need them later in the season...

This might be too much to say on here, or harsh.......but......I apologize in advance.

You are an absolute idiot. Why don't you go coach softball or something. Or catch some lobster... or hop on the Red Sox bandwagon

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This might be too much to say on here, or harsh.......but......I apologize in advance.

You are an absolute idiot. Why don't you go coach softball or something. Or catch some lobster... or hop on the Red Sox bandwagon

"Apologizing in advance" doesn't make that comment any more appropriate. Don't do that again.

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Every season is about winning. Thats what you set out to do. I know what you mean by that, but I think you're taking it too far.

Thank you. Nothing else should be acceptable to fans. The Orioles need us to believe in them.

The Orioles and the rest of fans are better off if people like Jtrea just leave and let the true fans appreciate the ride back to contention.

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Thank you. Nothing else should be acceptable to fans. The Orioles need us to believe in them.

The Orioles and the rest of fans are better off if people like Jtrea just leave and let the true fans appreciate the ride back to contention.

Yea, we should allow the fans with a total inability to think for themselves and think everything is rosy...Those are the "true fans". :rolleyes:

These are 2 of the most pathetic back to back posts I have ever seen on this site.

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I just can't understand this thread - especially at the beginning of the season. If you look around the league you see just about EVERY manager unwilling to stretch pitchers past the 6th inning - even in starts where the SP is pitching lights out.

This is basic baseball people!!

It's basic baseball to have no starter pitch beyond 5 1/3 innings? I must have missed that in the rulebook.

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Thank you. Nothing else should be acceptable to fans. The Orioles need us to believe in them.

The Orioles and the rest of fans are better off if people like Jtrea just leave and let the true fans appreciate the ride back to contention.

Come on man, hes a passionate fan of the team. Disagree with his opinions or not (and I do alot), we need more fans like him not less. Just be glad he doesn't make the decisions. No need to get personal.

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This might be too much to say on here, or harsh.......but......I apologize in advance.

You are an absolute idiot. Why don't you go coach softball or something. Or catch some lobster... or hop on the Red Sox bandwagon

I can't respond to this post, because it would get me banned. And I wouldn't care.

(Edited for the wrong post...)

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Yea, we should allow the fans with a total inability to think for themselves and think everything is rosy...Those are the "true fans". :rolleyes:

These are 2 of the most pathetic back to back posts I have ever seen on this site.

My point is we should still try to win games, and fans who openly admitt to tanking the season are clueless.

I agree, we are playing for the future.

But we have talent this year as well. This season does not have to be lost in all cases.

But calling people fodder and criticizing the manager for doing what most every other manager in baseball does this early in the season is rediculous as well.

You play to win the games. DT is a proud man, dont tell him he should not try to win games.

Sure it is a delicate balance, but when push comes to shove, you play to win the game in front of you, not the game or games next year....

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My point is we should still try to win games, and fans who openly admitt to tanking the season are clueless.

I agree, we are playing for the future.

But we have talent this year as well. This season does not have to be lost in all cases.

But calling people fodder and criticizing the manager for doing what most every other manager in baseball does this early in the season is rediculous as well.

You play to win the games. DT is a proud man, dont tell him he should not try to win games.

Sure it is a delicate balance, but when push comes to shove, you play to win the game in front of you, not the game or games next year....

MacPhail has already basically said we are tanking the season and that starters will have to pitch more even if they aren't performing.

And the Orioles aren't like other teams. Short of two of the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays being sucked into a black hole, we do not have a chance of winning anything this year. The other teams are all competing right now because they don't play in the AL East. We have to groom our talent even longer to make sure it is good enough to compete.

We are already playing for next year and the most important thing is to make sure that our future players have success. If Bergesen and our other young pitchers keep losing games after they are called up because a burned out bullpen blows them behind them, how is that supposed to help their confidence?

Simon's, Hendrickson's and Eaton's stats don't matter, their ERA doesn't matter, the W-L record doesn't matter. What matters is the success of our future because that is exactly what and all we are playing for this season. And having a healthy and effective bullpen to back up the cavalry is very important to that future.

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