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There was an update about how he was fixing his mehanics now after the injury so he could still have starter potential.

Unfortunately, if it were that simple he would have done it by now. I'm not saying Erbe can't smooth out his mechanics, but to use the injury as some sort of "do-over" when it comes to mechanics is "puff-piece" material at it's best.

Let's just see what his stuff looks like when he returns from the injury before we worry about his future role. Right now he just needs to overcome so serious odds just to regain his old stuff.

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Unfortunately, if it were that simple he would have done it by now. I'm not saying Erbe can't smooth out his mechanics, but to use the injury as some sort of "do-over" when it comes to mechanics is "puff-piece" material at it's best.

Let's just see what his stuff looks like when he returns from the injury before we worry about his future role. Right now he just needs to overcome so serious odds just to regain his old stuff.

Yeah, particularly considering he was reportedly re-doing his mechanics ad nauseum with Dave Schmidt (??) for the year + prior to becoming injured.

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Among pitchers I would probably have to put him 2nd or 3rd depending on how heavy you consider the possibility of Bridwell picking up velocity. Right now I think you have Britton, Klein and Bridwell and then the others...

I'd be more comfortable with the rankings after seeing Klein pitch for myself. I didn't catch him at Aberdeen and I'm going off other's reports on him.

Would you put him ahead of Hoes and Avery based off of upside/potential?

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Tony...if you look at him in terms of just pure talent and upside, where do you rank him in our system?

Not Tony, but to chime in here, you mean when taking safety or probability out of the equation? Based on pure upside, there are a handful of guys who COULD be better than Klein, but the probability of that happening is what keeps their names out of everyone's mouth.....

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Would you put him ahead of Hoes and Avery based off of upside/potential?

That's really hard to say because right now Bridwell is a lot of projection. Hoes upside could be as a Cano-type guy and Avery is still hard to judge right now, but his plate discipline drops him a notch for me.

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Among pitchers I would probably have to put him 2nd or 3rd depending on how heavy you consider the possibility of Bridwell picking up velocity. Right now I think you have Britton, Klein and Bridwell and then the others...

I'd be more comfortable with the rankings after seeing Klein pitch for myself. I didn't catch him at Aberdeen and I'm going off other's reports on him.

I am no expert. But he threw free and easy. Not even close to a max effort guy. Seemed like he had more in the fastball if he needed some. His curve was very sharp the night we saw him. I am also very enthused about Clayton Schrader.

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Klein was very impressive in the CWS. He commanded a good fastball, and his curve was MLB quality. Mixed pitches well, looked good out of the stretch. He is amazingly polished, considering that he has ~80 competitive IP since high school.

He was not your typical college closer. He looked more like a top shelf four-pitch college starting pitcher, finishing his third year.

On the basis of talent and present ability, I couldn't believe that he was there in the third round. Obviously the injury concerns and his status as a college reliever factored into it. But this guy can pitch.

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Klein was very impressive in the CWS. He commanded a good fastball, and his curve was MLB quality. Mixed pitches well, looked good out of the stretch. He is amazingly polished, considering that he has ~80 competitive IP since high school.

He was not your typical college closer. He looked more like a top shelf four-pitch college starting pitcher, finishing his third year.

On the basis of talent and present ability, I couldn't believe that he was there in the third round. Obviously the injury concerns and his status as a college reliever factored into it. But this guy can pitch.

Agree with almost all of this. I saw a fair amount of him this year and I'd say that as good as his curve is, it really played up because he burried it so much and got swings-and-misses. I'd like to see him throw it for strikes with more frequency, but that is probably nitpicking.

As a closer, though, his draft stock was hurt by his velocity, I think. You can't argue with the results, but many evaluators viewed him as a set-up arm down the line, rather than a potential closer the likes of Chapman (Florida -- who actually ended-up dropping due to injury concerns), Swaggerty (ASU), or Tillman (Fla. Sou.).

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Unfortunately, if it were that simple he would have done it by now. I'm not saying Erbe can't smooth out his mechanics, but to use the injury as some sort of "do-over" when it comes to mechanics is "puff-piece" material at it's best.

Let's just see what his stuff looks like when he returns from the injury before we worry about his future role. Right now he just needs to overcome so serious odds just to regain his old stuff.

I dunno, but I never ever ever realized his arm action was so funky. IMO, it wouldn't have mattered whether he was a SP or a RP, the injuries would have occured. The arm action and the wrap put so much strain on the shoulder....

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