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Dipper9 Hangout Grand Counsel

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My agent hasn't even contacted me to see if I want to re-up.
Us either. I am shocked.

And yet the IronBirds sent my package out in October, called me in November to make sure I got it, and I re-upped a few weeks ago.

The Orioles do everything wrong, from marketing to scouting to development to the Major League club. I will gladly pay to watch the kids in Aberdeen before I shell out much more for the Orioles.

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If that's the case (which I DO agree he is NOT a first baseman) then why make any offer at all? Or, at least do a 2/30 type of deal. Offer more per year to see if he'll bite as a DH. If you are offering 10 million per year when he already rejected 15 million per year, why even bother?

Beat me to it, literally. A team with thirteen straight losing seasons can not play ball this way. Offering the guy a pay cut is no way to start negotiations.

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AM isn't putting on a show for the fans by making offers he secretly hopes are turned down

I can think of 2 (4) letter words that start with B & S.

The is another ploy by the team to use their in house media guy to try to justify their poor approach .

Dunn is offensively better than any player the Orioles will add this off season. Any have added in his tenure here.

Don't waste your time offering less money than a guy has already turned down it won't work. It likely makes the agent/player laugh & discard them as a opportunity. If Dunn wanted $40 million he was accepted the extension from the National.

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So you get the Oriole Orange Carpet treatment or rugburns? I have called a guy I know in the Sales Dept. twice this week and he still hasn't returned my calls.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't been DISsatisfied. But now out here in Wisconsin, I'm seeing the Brewers are much better at whining and dining their potential plan holders. I'm also told I can expect a WOW offer from the Brew Crew sales team sometime next week, so BAL better step up its game!

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I'm sure MacPhail looked at Dunn and saw half a player in that Dunn doesn't play defense. Now obviously the other half is quite proficient - but I would imagine (and this is just me pontificating) that it's difficult for AM to justify giving a DH $56MM over 4 years.

What is even funnier is that the players being signed are not players most of us want. As you say, Dunn is half a player and the O's want a 1B who can hit and...wait for it...actually play 1B. Crazy I know.

Can we just wait until the offseason, or at least the Winter Meetings, is over before we start hanging MacPhail and Buck in effigy?

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If that's the case (which I DO agree he is NOT a first baseman) then why make any offer at all? Or, at least do a 2/30 type of deal. Offer more per year to see if he'll bite as a DH. If you are offering 10 million per year when he already rejected 15 million per year, why even bother?

Why not if you're offering a 4th year?

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The renewal form is going out next week. Why do they have no Holiday ticket packages this year? I know they drew so well last year.:laughlol:

I normally get that every year as a Christmas present for my wife (just so happens she takes me to Opening Day with her!). I heard last year they were thinking about not doing it anymore. I guess $100 per ticket for the left field bleachers is money the Orioles don't want? :rolleyes:

I swear this organization does things on a daily basis to intentionally piss off the fan base!

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What is even funnier is that the players being signed are not players most of us want. As you say, Dunn is half a player and the O's want a 1B who can hit and...wait for it...actually play 1B. Crazy I know.

Can we just wait until the offseason, or at least the Winter Meetings, is over before we start hanging MacPhail and Buck in effigy?

I would have loved to have had Dunn's bat in the lineup, but overreaction is what people around here do best.

Still, this is an important offseason. I am expecting some changes and if they don't happen, I'll also be leaning toward finding another GM.

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