Offer to Angels on the table

[MikeAD]

Ok heres a question, and sorry if its already been brought up (I've only been able to skim the 10 pages).

If you had to choose between Aybar/Santana or Wood/Saunders, which would you do.

Is Santana worth it to go Aybar over Wood?

[TyCobb]

Figgins has played SS before...albeit sparingly. He can't be too much of a laughingstock...

Figgins has the arm of a 10 year old girl.

[Moose Milligan]

Ok heres a question, and sorry if its already been brought up (I've only been able to skim the 10 pages).

If you had to choose between Aybar/Santana or Wood/Saunders, which would you do.

Is Santana worth it to go Aybar over Wood?

Personally, I'll go for "C" none of the above.

I've come to grips with the fact that Miggy might not be worth the 3 young prospects that he might have been worth 2-3 years ago...but none of these two packages remotely excite me.

I said it before, I've said it again...I want something closer to the sure thing. Does that mean a ML ready player straight up for Miggy? Sure, I guess so. But I'd rather have one sure thing prospect than two guys, one of whom seriously has some deficencies in a key area, the other who would be a back of the end rotation guy at best....

[Moose Milligan]

Figgins has the arm of a 10 year old girl.

Wow, I guess he rolled the ball from third to first in all the games he's played at third base...you know, the position he's logged more time at than any other and doesn't require a strong arm at all.

[Pickles]

Personally, I'll go for "C" none of the above.

I've come to grips with the fact that Miggy might not be worth the 3 young prospects that he might have been worth 2-3 years ago...but none of these two packages remotely excite me.

I said it before, I've said it again...I want something closer to the sure thing. Does that mean a ML ready player straight up for Miggy? Sure, I guess so. But I'd rather have one sure thing prospect than two guys, one of whom seriously has some deficencies in a key area, the other who would be a back of the end rotation guy at best....

No prospect is a sure thing; although I will admit that some of them can be closer to that than Wood. But when it comes to upside Wood is about as good as gets when it comes to moving Tejada. Would you rather have some 28yo with limited upside for Tejada? Because that seems to be what you're advocating.

[TyCobb]

Wow, I guess he rolled the ball from third to first in all the games he's played at third base...you know, the position he's logged more time at than any other position and doesn't require a strong arm at all.

SS has a much higher demand for a strong arm than 3B. He did have troubles making throws over from 3B this season.

[Moose Milligan]

SS has a much higher demand for a strong arm than 3B. He did have troubles making throws over from 3B this season.

Are you high?

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Look again, 3b has a longer throw almost every time, especially if a SS is ranging up towards second base. The throw in the hole/foul territory for a 3b is way longer than any throw a SS will have to make.

I'll let you play the range card next, want to take a stab at it?

[TyCobb]

Are you high?

<img src = "http://www.allstarssportsacademy.com/trivia/baseball_diamond.jpg">

Look again, 3b has a longer throw almost every time, especially if a SS is ranging up towards second base. The throw in the hole/foul territory for a 3b is way longer than any throw a SS will have to make.

I'll let you play the range card next, want to take a stab at it?

LOL

I have played baseball and can tell you that a SS throw is longer/harder to make than a 3rd baseman. You have to factor in where the SS is playing to where the 3rd baseman is playing. Plus add to the fact that a SS recieve the ball later than a 3rd baseman would.

[Pickles]

Are you high?

<img src = "http://www.allstarssportsacademy.com/trivia/baseball_diamond.jpg">

Look again, 3b has a longer throw almost every time, especially if a SS is ranging up towards second base. The throw in the hole/foul territory for a 3b is way longer than any throw a SS will have to make.

I'll let you play the range card next, want to take a stab at it?

Yeah diagrams are nice. Did you ever play the game? SS requires more arm than 3b and anybody who knows anything will agree with that. The ball takes longer to get to the SS hence the neccessity of having a stronger arm to get the ball to 1b in time.

[MikeAD]

LOL

I have played baseball and can tell you that a SS throw is longer/harder to make than a 3rd baseman. You have to factor in where the SS is playing to where the 3rd baseman is playing.

I would agree with this, 3rd base is an easier throw, on routine plays. If its not then my coaches were always wrong, and I am wrong as I coach.

[Moose Milligan]

No prospect is a sure thing; although I will admit that some of them can be closer to that than Wood. But when it comes to upside Wood is about as good as gets when it comes to moving Tejada. Would you rather have some 28yo with limited upside for Tejada? Because that seems to be what you're advocating.

Wood's got the upside but I can't get over the excessive K's and the low-ish on base. Maybe he'll improve, but it's not like he's striking out 80-100 times, he's striking out 125-150 times.

I don't think Wood is as good as it gets as far as a prospect goes, I just don't. I'd look for another prospect who's more polished and has less guesswork.

[Pickles]

Wood's got the upside but I can't get over the excessive K's and the low-ish on base. Maybe he'll improve, but it's not like he's striking out 80-100 times, he's striking out 125-150 times.

I don't think Wood is as good as it gets as far as a prospect goes, I just don't. I'd look for another prospect who's more polished and has less guesswork.

Like who? Remeber we're trading Tejada here not Bedard. Wood + is a good return for Tejada. That's all there is to it.

[Moose Milligan]

Yeah diagrams are nice. Did you ever play the game? SS requires more arm than 3b and anybody who knows anything will agree with that. The ball takes longer to get to the SS hence the neccessity of having a stronger arm to get the ball to 1b in time.

Yeah, I played third, short and I also pitched.

It's more common to see a SS with a weaker arm than a 3rd baseman with a weaker arm.

[Moose Milligan]

Like who? Remeber we're trading Tejada here not Bedard. Wood + is a good return for Tejada. That's all there is to it.

Really, so the Angels are the only team out there that would be willing to part with a prospect for Tejada? I'd rather go for a better prospect alone than Wood+.

[Sandwich Pick]

Are you high?

<img src = "http://www.allstarssportsacademy.com/trivia/baseball_diamond.jpg">

Look again, 3b has a longer throw almost every time, especially if a SS is ranging up towards second base. The throw in the hole/foul territory for a 3b is way longer than any throw a SS will have to make.

I'll let you play the range card next, want to take a stab at it?

That's hilarious.