Rule 5 Draft

[weams]

I would think that after the Oriole's surprisingly successful season, they would be less inclined to again dip into the Rule 5 pool like they did last year with Ryan Flaherty. Expectations were much, much lower then, but now the Orioles have to be considered a contending team. As such, the need is for solid veteran bench players. But illogical as it may seem, Flaherty might have played himself into possible consideration as one of those bench players.

Most rule 5 draftees can be acquired by trade. Flaherty was an exception, the Cubs intended to stash him off the 40 man roster last season.

[olehippi]

Most rule 5 draftees can be acquired by trade. Flaherty was an exception, the Cubs intended to stash him off the 40 man roster last season.

But usually its the MiL players that teams try to hide that are worth taking a chance on, and I'm not sure how often trades are made for Rule 5 guys....don't they still have to stay on the ML roster? Lots of guys become Rule 5 eligible, but few get selected. The Orioles thought they had nothing to lose by selecting Flaherty, but they wound up in a pennant race. But because Flaherty was ML-ready, or close to it, he actually made some contributions. The Orioles got lucky once before with Jay Gibbons, and arguably blew it by not keeping Jose Batista.

[Crazysilver03]

But usually its the MiL players that teams try to hide that are worth taking a chance on, and I'm not sure how often trades are made for Rule 5 guys....don't they still have to stay on the ML roster? Lots of guys become Rule 5 eligible, but few get selected. The Orioles thought they had nothing to lose by selecting Flaherty, but they wound up in a pennant race. But because Flaherty was ML-ready, or close to it, he actually made some contributions. The Orioles got lucky once before with Jay Gibbons, and arguably blew it by not keeping Jose Batista.

Bautista didn't really develop for two to three seasons after we had him.

[Dr. FLK]

Randy Henry, who we traded for Taylor Teagarden, is available after failing in a conversion to starter. He had a sub 1 ERA at high A as a reliever. He certainly could take Gregg's role.

Didn't "we" freak out when we traded him for Teagarden?

[Can_of_corn]

Didn't "we" freak out when we traded him for Teagarden?

I think the main person that was freaking out is no longer a part of "we".

I liked the Teagarden trade, now the Eveland and Thome trades...not so much.

[weams]

I think the main person that was freaking out is no longer a part of "we".

I liked the Teagarden trade, now the Eveland and Thome trades...not so much.

Jarret Martin did not have much of a year.

[Can_of_corn]

Jarret Martin did not have much of a year.

Neither did Dana Eveland.

[weams]

Neither did Dana Eveland.

You are so right.

[weams]

You are so right.

The Thome trade might have mattered if we could have gotten one more out in NY.

[Can_of_corn]

The Thome trade might have mattered if we could have gotten one more out in NY.

Yep.

I still think it would have been an overpay.

I don't like giving up Catchers.

[wildcard]

I would think that after the Oriole's surprisingly successful season, they would be less inclined to again dip into the Rule 5 pool like they did last year with Ryan Flaherty. Expectations were much, much lower then, but now the Orioles have to be considered a contending team. As such, the need is for solid veteran bench players. But illogical as it may seem, Flaherty might have played himself into possible consideration as one of those bench players.

If Roberts can't make it back to a high performance level Flaherty may be the starting 2B.

[HokieOs]

If Roberts can't make it back to a high performance level Flaherty may be the starting 2B.

If Roberts is hurt and with Andino now gone, he may have to be by necessity. Ideally, I'd like to see Flaherty play every day in Norfolk for a little while. I just didn't see anything out of Flaherty that warrants being even a backup in the MLB right now. We're talking about a guy who had a .617 OPS this year. That's AWFUL. Let him play in Norfolk, find another 2B on the FA market. Put Schoop at SS there (I actually like the idea of simply leaving Machado at 3B anyway). As needed, we can pull up one of Flaherty/Schoop to fill the utility IF role or even start if needed due to injury... until Schoop is ready to play in the bigs.

[wildcard]

If Roberts is hurt and with Andino now gone, he may have to be by necessity. Ideally, I'd like to see Flaherty play every day in Norfolk for a little while. I just didn't see anything out of Flaherty that warrants being even a backup in the MLB right now. We're talking about a guy who had a .617 OPS this year. That's AWFUL. Let him play in Norfolk, find another 2B on the FA market. Put Schoop at SS there (I actually like the idea of simply leaving Machado at 3B anyway). As needed, we can pull up one of Flaherty/Schoop to fill the utility IF role or even start if needed due to injury... until Schoop is ready to play in the bigs.

I agree that its more desirable for Flaherty to start the season in AAA. However look at Flaherty 2nd half numbers. Though a small sample he did improve greatly over the first half.

[MurphDogg]

Bautista didn't really develop for two to three seasons after we had him.

And he wasn't better than replacement level for 5 seasons.

[DrungoHazewood]

Randy Henry, who we traded for Taylor Teagarden, is available after failing in a conversion to starter. He had a sub 1 ERA at high A as a reliever. He certainly could take Gregg's role.

I think I need more than 27 innings 8 runs (3 earned) in A ball to give a guy a major league roster spot for a year. I mean, he had basically the same line in the Carolina League as a reliever as Matthew Bischoff, who was literally a Frederick Key last year and I didn't even know his name until 48 seconds ago.