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What do you think BRob will earn next year? (Not necessarily from the Orioles)


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What do you think BRob will earn next year (not necessarily from the O's)?  

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  1. 1. What do you think BRob will earn next year (not necessarily from the O's)?

    • Only a minor league deal (or he'll retire)
    • Less than $1 mm
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    • $1 -1.99 mm
    • $2 - 3.99 mm
    • $4 - 5.49 mm
    • $5.50 mm or more


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The Orioles should resign Brian for 4 million for 2014, with an option for 2015 (5.5 million). He will get less from other clubs.

Why would we pay Brian more than he would earn on the open market? If anything, I'd think he owes us a discount on his next deal for paying him $40 mm to play in less than 200 games over four years.

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Defensively, Roberts is very good at making plays on the balls he gets to. His range and arm are not going to get him onto a highlight reel. I think his defense is passable on the O's because everyone else in the infield is so good. On a team with average to below average infielders, his defense might be tough to carry.

Offensively, he doesn't steal anymore and he also doesn't (hasn't this year) hit LHP anymore. He has very good at bats in clutch situations. He has hit RHP very well this year.

I think his best role (on any team) would be as DH against RHP and emergency 2B... similar to what Betemit's role would have been this year had he been healthy. That should be worth 2-3 million. Any team that wants him as their everyday 2B and is willing to pay him 4-5 million should be able to sign him, but they may end up regretting it.

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Roberts SHOULD BE already set for life financially, regardless of whether or not he retires at the end of this season, or if he keeps on playing ...... especially considering the fact that he will have a nice pension coming to him someday in addition to all of the money that he has already made as a player, so any money at all that he makes from here on out should be gravy.

In my rat's ass of an opinion, it would be wise for Roberts to see the forest for the trees, and do everything in his power to remain an Oriole for the rest of his playing days. That way, he would not only be remembered historically as a "face of the franchise" type player, but he would also symbolically become the type of guy that stuck it out through thick and thin WITH HIS TEAM, through more than a decade of losing, and then was finally rewarded with several consecutive winning seasons at the end of his career, and possibly even a pennant and/or a World Series title.

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Roberts SHOULD BE already set for life financially, regardless of whether or not he retires at the end of this season, or if he keeps on playing ...... especially considering the fact that he will have a nice pension coming to him someday in addition to all of the money that he already made as a player, so any money at all that he makes from here on out should be gravy.

In my rat's ass of an opinion, it would be wise for Roberts to see the forest for the trees, and do everything in his power to remain an Oriole for the rest of his playing days. That way, he would not only be remembered historically as a "face of the franchise" type player, but he would also symbolically become the type of guy that stuck it out with HIS team through thick and thin, through more than a decade of losing, and then finally having been rewarded with several consecutive winning seasons, and possibly even a pennant and/or a World Series title.

and everybody said, AMEN!

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The problem with him as a bench player is where can you play him other then 2B/DH? I would think most teams would prefer a guy on the bench that can man SS or Third. Maybe if he can prove he can still be a viable basestealer that would open him up as a pinch hitter/runner type in the NL.

If the starting 2B can play other positions like 2B/SS/3B then there is not as much need for BRob to play many positions. BRob would just play against those pitchers that he hits well when he plays 2B or DH.

His asset is hitting with runners in scoring position. Some posters don't think that is a repeatable skill but I am not so sure.

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Roberts SHOULD BE already set for life financially, regardless of whether or not he retires at the end of this season, or if he keeps on playing ...... especially considering the fact that he will have a nice pension coming to him someday in addition to all of the money that he already made as a player, so any money at all that he makes from here on out should be gravy.

In my rat's ass of an opinion, it would be wise for Roberts to see the forest for the trees, and do everything in his power to remain an Oriole for the rest of his playing days. That way, he would not only be remembered historically as a "face of the franchise" type player, but he would also symbolically become the type of guy that stuck it out through thick and thin WITH HIS TEAM, through more than a decade of losing, and then was finally rewarded with several consecutive winning seasons at the end of his career, and possibly even a pennant and/or a World Series title.

Well said. He would probably make out far better on the back end were things to go this way. He would go from being viewed as a large waste of money to a potential great "what could have been" type guy in the national perspective.

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Roberts SHOULD BE already set for life financially, regardless of whether or not he retires at the end of this season, or if he keeps on playing ...... especially considering the fact that he will have a nice pension coming to him someday in addition to all of the money that he already made as a player, so any money at all that he makes from here on out should be gravy.

In my rat's ass of an opinion, it would be wise for Roberts to see the forest for the trees, and do everything in his power to remain an Oriole for the rest of his playing days. That way, he would not only be remembered historically as a "face of the franchise" type player, but he would also symbolically become the type of guy that stuck it out through thick and thin WITH HIS TEAM, through more than a decade of losing, and then finally having been rewarded with several consecutive winning seasons at the end of his career, and possibly even a pennant and/or a World Series title.

How far do you take it, though? Let's say the O's offer BRob a one-year, $1.5 mm deal and some other team offers him 2/$7 mm. Would you think badly of him if he took the 2/$7 mm? What if it were 3/$10 mm? I'd expect BRob to want to re-sign with the Orioles if they want him back and the money is anywhere close to what he can earn elsewhere, but the bigger the gap in years and dollars, the less I'd feel that he had some obligation to stay here.

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How far do you take it, though? Let's say the O's offer BRob a one-year, $1.5 mm deal and some other team offers him 2/$7 mm. Would you think badly of him if he took the 2/$7 mm? What if it were 3/$10 mm? I'd expect BRob to want to re-sign with the Orioles if they want him back and the money is anywhere close to what he can earn elsewhere, but the bigger the gap in years and dollars, the less I'd feel that he had some obligation to stay here.

Oh, I wouldn't think badly of Roberts if he signed with another team.

I'm saying that I think it would be best for him, for his own sake as a player, and for the way that he will ultimately be viewed historically by the baseball world at-large when all is said and one ...... not the way that I feel about him as a fan.

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How far do you take it, though? Let's say the O's offer BRob a one-year, $1.5 mm deal and some other team offers him 2/$7 mm. Would you think badly of him if he took the 2/$7 mm? What if it were 3/$10 mm? I'd expect BRob to want to re-sign with the Orioles if they want him back and the money is anywhere close to what he can earn elsewhere, but the bigger the gap in years and dollars, the less I'd feel that he had some obligation to stay here.

I think the question is how far does BRpb take it? BRob was paid $40M and return maybe $7M in performance. He should give the O's first right of refusal not matter what he is offered. That may not be the way today's athlete thinks but IMO BRob should think that way.

Second thing is: Do DD and Buck want him back. Reynolds would have returned for less but the O's management were not interested. Could be the same way with BRob.

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If the starting 2B can play other positions like 2B/SS/3B then there is not as much need for BRob to play many positions. BRob would just play against those pitchers that he hits well when he plays 2B or DH.

His asset is hitting with runners in scoring position. Some posters don't think that is a repeatable skill but I am not so sure.

His career numbers with RISP are good ones .277/.369/.432 801 OPS. His numbers this season, .441/.477/.618 1.095 OPS are certainly not repeatable. So if you want him for his career numbers, then great.

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I think he hangs 'em up after this season. Given the hell he went through with both the concussions, I personally hope that's his call, but whatever his choice is, I hope it's for the best. If I were Duquette, I would politely decline making an offer to BRob as a player.

This first thing I wondered when I saw this poll is if he were insurable at all after the last three years. I have to think that's going to impact any potential market for him.

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I think he hangs 'em up after this season. Given the hell he went through with both the concussions, I personally hope that's his call, but whatever his choice is, I hope it's for the best. If I were Duquette, I would politely decline making an offer to BRob as a player.

This first thing I wondered when I saw this poll is if he were insurable at all after the last three years. I have to think that's going to impact any potential market for him.

I thought I remember another OH poster saying insurance polices were no longer the norm, with the way the companies were losing money.

The actual cost to the ball club in premiums were ridiculous.

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I must be missing something here. We are talking about a soon-to-be 36-year-old, injury prone second baseman who has not had a good offensive season in three years. We are talking about a guy who is subpar defensively and has put up an OPS+ of 86. He has little power and diminishing speed.

Why on earth would anyone give that player a multiyear deal? When the question is asked of me, I think at best he gets maybe $2 million, but it's quite possible he ends up with a minor league invite. I know he's been having better at-bats recently and his numbers have been coming up, but he hasn't looked that great to me. If the Orioles gave him more than $2 million I would be disappointed, because we sorely need that money for other positions.

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