Is Wieters Worth $100 Million?

[scOtt]

Rick Dempsey wishes he was playing now.

Dave Johnson (the pitcher.)

Hell, even Dave Johnson the 2Bman.

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: Brian McCann on verge of long-term deal with Yankees <a href="http://t.co/4g0WE2mCkz">http://t.co/4g0WE2mCkz</a></p>— HardballTalk (@HardballTalk) <a href="

">November 23, 2013</a></blockquote>

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I will move this in a bit. That Makes Wieters more valuable

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If the Yankees sign McCann, they will give up the 18th pick in the draft. Braves will pick up the 39th pick (for now).</p>— Chris Crawford (@CrawfordChrisV) <a href="

">November 23, 2013</a></blockquote>

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Losing the 18th pick of the draft.

[Can_of_corn]

The Fun Police and the Yankees.

Sounds like a perfect match.

Wonder if this will lead to more scrums?

[weams]

The Fun Police and the Yankees.

Sounds like a perfect match.

Wonder if this will lead to more scrums?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Or maybe the McCann rumors were a little off the plate and he was just making it look like a deal was close. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FramingJoke&src=hash">#FramingJoke</a></p>— Beyond the Box Score (@BtBScore) <a href="

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A framing joke.

[weams]

Five years approximately 80 million.

[Il BuonO]

Fangraphs has him at 5.1 FRAA.

So, a couple things. First, is Fangraphs the best arbiter for FRAA? For instance BP in the same category has him at 0.7, that's quite a discrepancy.

I can't find the category for Bbref.

My OP was asking if SMM thought he had a down year last year. I'm not sure he'll bounce back with all the innings he plays, but I think we should continue to use him in the same capacity since it seems he won't be signing an extension.

[isestrex]

Long term deal? <a href="http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/isestrex/media/Emoticons/huh.gif.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h367/isestrex/Emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" alt=" photo huh.gif"/></a>

Yet another example of a Yankee signing that will look great for 2-3 years and then look swamp monster ugly in 4-5 years. Typical good ol Yankee know how...

[Ommaculate]

Add Brian McCann to the hate list.

[Can_of_corn]

Five years approximately 80 million.

And Boras wanted twice that for Wieters?

[Ommaculate]

If McCann gets 5 / 80, shouldn't Wieters get less?

[weams]

And Boras wanted twice that for Wieters?

McCann has not produced 3 war since 2010. And of course Matt is younger. And that was spread over more years.

[LayzieDES]

Time for the razor to come out.

[Can_of_corn]

So, a couple things. First, is Fangraphs the best arbiter for FRAA? For instance BP in the same category has him at 0.7, that's quite a discrepancy.

I can't find the category for Bbref.

My OP was asking if SMM thought he had a down year last year. I'm not sure he'll bounce back with all the innings he plays, but I think we should continue to use him in the same capacity since it seems he won't be signing an extension.

I don't pretend to know enough about how they judge Catcher defense to answer that question.

I wasn't trying to correct you I was just showing that the metrics were inconsistent in their findings.

I think he clearly wasn't as good as in 2011-2012 but I don't think you call him below average without giving weight to some questionable stuff like CERA and Pitch Framing analysis.

[weams]

I guess Buck was wrong. Matt Wieters WON"T be starting for the Yankees in 2016.