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Chris Davis did not know the Orioles had Offered an Extension?


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Needless to say, I don't agree with it. Too much risk there based on one great year. If I thought he'd be a .900 OPS guy for the next 8 years, I'd feel differently.

Continues to sound like you would let Davis walk or trade him. That's fine. I would sign him.

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What happen to Weams of last year that said this club has money to spend, but in the right places?

This club could afford it, of course, just my opinion.

Now, the owner chooses not to spend that kind of money, well, that is his right, since its his team.

I think we have a budget of 108 million. 105 to 108 actually. I do not think we will spend 140 million on a player.

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I think Duke would offer him around that 8/150 deal you guys have thrown out there, if it were his choice.

The reality is Angelos is not going to sign off on that much money. Not today. Not midway through the season. And not next offseason.

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I'm not trying to speak for Frobby, but why does this question/comment/accusation get asked every few months by someone? Let me make this clear once again.

1. We are not defending the Orioles organization.

2. We do not want the Orioles to be penny-pinchers.

3. We do not want a .500 season, we want to win championships.

4. The owner obviously does not think spending money is necessary to win, so instead of bashing him, or starting threads about signing the premium talent that we KNOW that ownership won't do, we acknowledge who we are and how ownership goes about their business, and we post our thoughts based on that reality, not based on some fantasy that the ownership will pay Davis 7/140 and Wieters 5/100 and also sign the top free agent pitchers. Why is this so hard to understand, and why do we get labeled as apologists for simply acknowledging the way the Orioles run their operation?

I don't think this conclusion is obvious at all. I think the more likely conclusion is that the owner doesn't really give a hoot about winning. He probably wants to be just competitive enought to maximize profit... and certainly is adverse to long term guaranteed contracts.

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One question that needs to be answered re: Davis' worth today, is what team has the money and need at 1B to either trade for him at the deadline or pay for him as a FA. The Met's might be a taker at the deadline and they have some young SP to trade. I can't see that many other teams that would be interested in a trade for him this year. Maybe SEA if they are in it at the TD, possibly MIL. A number of teams including the MFY and BOS will be interested when he is a FA. It's a much better bet for Boras to gamble that he'll make 7/140M+ as a FA, than to accept whatever BAL can offer now in extension. Even if they offered Frobby's 7/115M that would be less than the minimum he could get for CD as a FA BTW if you split the difference between his 2012 season and his 2013 he would have 44 HR, 111 RBI, .915 OPS.I wouldn't be surprised to see something close to that.

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Even if they offered Frobby's 7/115M that would be less than the minimum he could get for CD as a FA BTW if you split the difference between his 2012 season and his 2013 he would have 44 HR, 111 RBI, .915 OPS.I wouldn't be surprised to see something close to that.

Well, I hope you are right. I do think Davis will have another .900+ season or two sometime in the future. I just am not convinced he'll do it most of the time. That .854 from the second half of last year just strikes me as what we are more likely to see most of the time from Davis. Hopefully, a little better. My projection for 2014 would be in the area of .875-.880.

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Well, I hope you are right. I do think Davis will have another .900+ season or two sometime in the future. I just am not convinced he'll do it most of the time. That .854 from the second half of last year just strikes me as what we are more likely to see most of the time from Davis. Hopefully, a little better. My projection for 2014 would be in the area of .875-.880.
Last season was the first year Davis played a full season 160 G. 139 the year before. I think he just ran out of gas. Plus the pressure of all the media attention, the PED thing the AL HR record etc. I look for him to pace himself a little better and hopefully Buck will be smart enough to DH him a little more. I think he made some fundamental adjustments in 2012 and carried them over to 2013. I think he will continue to carry them over.
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Last season was the first year Davis played a full season 160 G. 139 the year before. I think he just ran out of gas. Plus the pressure of all the media attention, the PED thing the AL HR record etc. I look for him to pace himself a little better and hopefully Buck will be smart enough to DH him a little more. I think he made some fundamental adjustments in 2012 and carried them over to 2013. I think he will continue to carry them over.

Could be. I'm just not willing to pay him now based on that assumption. I do think he'll be better than his 2012 season (.827 OPS) for the foreseeable future.

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Could be. I'm just not willing to pay him now based on that assumption. I do think he'll be better than his 2012 season (.827 OPS) for the foreseeable future.
What would you pay for an average of .850 OPS, 35 HR, and 100 RBI's over the next 6-7 years? It's moot of course because, whatever it is PA wouldn't pay it. Duq XM had a telling point IMO. He said PA paid 175 M for the team back when he took over. No way he is coming close to paying anyone player that. I can imagine a conversation between CD and SB

SB: Chris I know you want to stay in BAL, but the reality is the best I can get our of PA is maybe 6/100 M starting next year. I feel confident that I can get you 6-7/150 m + if you wait to become a FA. You decide.

CD: Go for it Scott, but I'd rather play in BOS than NY.

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What would you pay for an average of .850 OPS, 35 HR, and 100 RBI's over the next 6-7 years?

I think I've already answered that in this thread: I'd be willing to give Davis about 7/$115 mm. For what it's worth, in the last six years, only two players have averaged 35 homers a year: Cabrera and Pujols. Only five guys have averaged 100 RBI/year: Cabrera, Fielder, Gonzalez, Pujols and Howard. All five of those guys make a lot more money than what I'd be willing to pay Davis right now. Cabrera is the only one who's earning it, and the other four all had a better track record than Davis when they signed their current contracts.

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I don't think this conclusion is obvious at all. I think the more likely conclusion is that the owner doesn't really give a hoot about winning. He probably wants to be just competitive enought to maximize profit... and certainly is adverse to long term guaranteed contracts.

I think others differ with your opinion. I think it may be a bit simplistic.

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