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That $25MM is a myth. There is a thread about that if you search for it.

So, under the old terms, teams got 25.53 million and new terms is 51.67 million per year.

Do the math 51.67=25.53 = 26.14

So what part of that is a myth?

Fangraphs also says the Orioles get 29 million per year from MASN, so is this more myth?

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So, under the old terms, teams got 25.53 million and new terms is 51.67 million per year.

Do the math 51.67=25.53 = 26.14

So what part of that is a myth?

Because the old deal is an AVERAGE of $27MM scaled up every year from the first until the last (meaning that the highest value was in 2013), and the new 8/416 deal is structured similarly with an AVERAGE of $52MM (with the lowest value in 2014), and according to the senior editor of Forbes Sports, the actual value of the 2014 deal vs. 2013 is somewhere between $5 and $10MM, BEFORE MLB takes their cut.

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Because the old deal is an AVERAGE of $27MM scaled up every year from the first until the last (meaning that the highest value was in 2013), and the new 8/416 deal is structured similarly with an AVERAGE of $52MM (with the lowest value in 2014), and according to the senior editor of Forbes Sports, the actual value of the 2014 deal vs. 2013 is somewhere between $5 and $10MM, BEFORE MLB takes their cut.

Thanks, makes sense.

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So, under the old terms, teams got 25.53 million and new terms is 51.67 million per year.

Do the math 51.67=25.53 = 26.14

So what part of that is a myth?

Fangraphs also says the Orioles get 29 million per year from MASN, so is this more myth?

It's a myth because it's not an up front $25m increase. Rather it's an increase of a few million each year over the term of the deal. So it might be a total of $30m in national tv money, not $51m which is being reported.

O's lose 34% of that $29m as part of revenue sharing, sure the O's get some of it back, but not all of it. 34% of 29m is $10m so the O's actually keep $19m. So $19m plus the $30m (guess new deal terms), is $49m. That $49m will increase both from MASN and National tv deal, but we are talking 4 years out until we start equaling that "$25m" increase people are claiming.

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Because there are much better ways to spend $10M/year? Feldman had a good season, but that's a ton to pay for a 4-5 starter.
The problem with Jimenez is he could be a CY candidate, or he could be worse than Feldman. Feldman is what he is and he would have been fine ,IMO, and cheaper. Then we might have the money left for Morales.
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The problem with Jimenez is he could be a CY candidate, or he could be worse than Feldman. Feldman is what he is and he would have been fine ,IMO, and cheaper. Then we might have the money left for Morales.

Isn't a team in the Orioles position better off with a high-variance pitcher than yet another 4th-5th starter and a Grade C+ DH?

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Isn't a team in the Orioles position better off with a high-variance pitcher than yet another 4th-5th starter and a Grade C+ DH?

Absolutely. Jimenez is a better pitcher than Feldman, even variance aside. Feldman is grossly overrated because he put up a nice NL-aided first half with the Cubs last season. Jimenez can always fall back on his ability to strike guys out. His ceiling is a #2, whereas Feldman's ceiling is a #4 on a good team.

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Absolutely. Jimenez is a better pitcher than Feldman, even variance aside. Feldman is grossly overrated because he put up a nice NL-aided first half with the Cubs last season. Jimenez can always fall back on his ability to strike guys out. His ceiling is a #2, whereas Feldman's ceiling is a #4 on a good team.

Jimenez's ceiling is a #1. See September 2013 (and really the whole 2nd half).

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Isn't a team in the Orioles position better off with a high-variance pitcher than yet another 4th-5th starter and a Grade C+ DH?
Maybe if the high variance SP produces at the top end of his ability. But the Orioles needed to replace the performance of 9 SP who combined for horrible numbers, with a full season of what we got from Feldman and Norris for a partial season last year. Tillman, Chen, Gonzo, Feldman and Norris combined for 108 GS, 43-29 W/L. 6 IP/GS, for a 3.98 ERA. Projected over a full season that could be close to 100 W with this offense. They already have Norris and adding a Feldman for a full season would have made us competitive. Jimenez might be better but he could be worse. We didn't need to spend 4/50M to fill that hole for a year or two.
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