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I would really applaud DD if he could turn Norris into more prospect loot than what we gave up for him as I hope we do with Cruz.

This is certainly possible, given the very good season Norris just had. The haul won't have a top-tier prospect in it though.

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This is certainly possible, given the very good season Norris just had. The haul won't have a top-tier prospect in it though.

It will be a high bar to clear to get back what we gave up for Norris, but Weams has insisted multiple times that would indeed be the case (though I am skeptical).

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I'd be in favor on trading Norris for better pitching but not for an outfielder.

Whose playing left field every day and/or right if Markakis isn't back? Would you really want to trust David Lough or Alejandro De Aza every day? I'm all for getting an outfielder if they're a good option, and while it would suck to give up Norris because I like his personality, with him a year away from free agency that's a deal you think about.

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I love Norris, but I agree he should be available if we can bring actual value back. Definitely against trading him as a salary dump.

Probably the Orioles should hang onto Jiminez, considering what it would take to unload the contract. I think we just have to cross our fingers with him.

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I love Norris, but I agree he should be available if we can bring actual value back. Definitely against trading him as a salary dump.

Probably the Orioles should hang onto Jiminez, considering what it would take to unload the contract. I think we just have to cross our fingers with him.

It's money. Peter has plenty. If you don't think Jimenz is in the plans and Buck and the brass want to move on, it won't cost us. Do it.

We aren't talking about a bad appliance that we can't afford to replace here, Angelos is rich.

I think he bounces back, but who knows, maybe he doesn't and then what?

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It's money. Peter has plenty. If you don't think Jimenz is in the plans and Buck and the brass want to move on, it won't cost us. Do it.

We aren't talking about a bad appliance that we can't afford to replace here, Angelos is rich.

I think he bounces back, but who knows, maybe he doesn't and then what?

Yeah, Angelos is rich, so instead of trying to dump Jiminez on another team, why not just cut him and sign Lester and Shields?

Obviously this is ridiculous. Angelos is rich, yes, but that doesn't mean he gives DD free license to spend it however he wants. DD is operating under financial constraints and it doesn't help the discussion to ignore them.

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Whose playing left field every day and/or right if Markakis isn't back? Would you really want to trust David Lough or Alejandro De Aza every day? I'm all for getting an outfielder if they're a good option, and while it would suck to give up Norris because I like his personality, with him a year away from free agency that's a deal you think about.

The improvement in the starting pitching is what put the O's in the AL Championship series more than anything else. It should be a priority to keep it or improve on it.

Chen will be a free agent at the end of 2015 and he is likely gone at that point.

Indications are that as soon as Jimenez trade value equals the amount of money left on his contract he will be traded. He is slow to the plate which does not work well for at team that wants to maximize its defense like the O's. The soonest I see him traded in July. Its could be later.

Chen and Jimenez are to guys that I don't see has long term Orioles. That leaves four starters in Gausman, Tillman Gonzo and Norris. Bundy hopefully is the fifth starter in 2016.

So if Dan can trade Norris for a better starter then fine. But otherwise I would try to extend him.

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It's money. Peter has plenty. If you don't think Jimenz is in the plans and Buck and the brass want to move on, it won't cost us. Do it.

We aren't talking about a bad appliance that we can't afford to replace here, Angelos is rich.

I think he bounces back, but who knows, maybe he doesn't and then what?

He's always been inconsistent. I think U only bounces back so far.

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The improvement in the starting pitching is what put the O's in the AL Championship series more than anything else. It should be a priority to keep it or improve on it.

Chen will be a free agent at the end of 2015 and he is likely gone at that point.

Indications are that as soon as Jimenez trade value equals the amount of money left on his contract he will be traded. He is slow to the plate which does not work well for at team that wants to maximize its defense like the O's. The soonest I see him traded in July. Its could be later.

Chen and Jimenez are to guys that I don't see has long term Orioles. That leaves four starters in Gausman, Tillman Gonzo and Norris. Bundy hopefully is the fifth starter in 2016.

So if Dan can trade Norris for a better starter then fine. But otherwise I would try to extend him.

Norris wont break the bank and is solid if he brings in returns like this past year. We are also banking on the fact that Gausman can develop that third pitch, and that Tillman doesnt have a lot of 5 inning performances like he did in the playoffs. Also counting on Bundy early in the season might be a little wishful thinking. Pitching got the Os to the top of the Al East last year. If we reduce the talent on the pitching staff then the Os might battle it out for a WC spot next year instead of contending for the AL East pennant again. The window to win a WS is closing- now is to the time to add, not subtract.

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As of right now we have no LF,RF and DH. Pearce and De Aza both have 1 year deals left. With Davis and MW being FA's next year. With Young, Cruz and Markakis FA's right now. That's a lot of people to replace. We probably aren't going to lose all of them, but this is the reason to see what we can get for Norris. DD could trade 1 year of Norris for a multi year solution at one of the empty spots.

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