Toronto looking for New President to be Duquette.

[Guest rochester]

The reason people are attacking the media is that the entire story has been put forward in a blatantly self-serving way by Rosenthal, and picked up by his peers. Look at the opening Rosenthal tweet in the opening post. Rosenthal put this out there at a moment when he knew Duquette and others would be on a plane to the West Coast and could not respond for hours. He then stated "difficult for O's to stand in the way," when I would guess Rosenthal knew full well that Angelos and the O's had every right and legal standing to object. This smacks of setting up a drama that the gossip columnists can milk for a while: Angelos is the bad guy for insisting on a valued GM honoring his contract, all of Duquette's moves and non-moves for the offseason can be questioned regarding his loyalties, parts of the fan base can be roiled by these doubts, etc.

If the BJ's were honestly interested in Duquette and competent, neither of which I know for sure, they would certainly have ensured that this information did not get out until they had negotiated with Peter about the opportunity to officially discuss the opportunity with Duquette. (I am sure there were indirect, unofficial inquiries with Duquette or his associates beforehand.) By leaking the information, whether through malevolence or incompetence, they guaranteed that Duquette would not be available, even if he were interested in the job. Duquette apparently applied for this same job before coming to the O's. The O's were the ones who were brave enough to give a job to a guy who'd been out of MLB for a decade, the BJ's were not. Given that history, it is quite understandable that Angelos would insist on Duquette honoring his contract. This "free Dan Duquette" storyline is invented to serve the interests of the baseball gossip columnists, and nobody else.

Nice.....

[waroriole]

Best part of the article:

"It's true Duquette has four years to go on his contract to remain GM of the Orioles, but no one -- not even Angelos -- should stand in the way of Duquette bettering his life."

Does anyone have a problem with the cognitive dissonance of pundits saying that the Orioles should free an executive from his contract that he individually negotiated for while also believing that is in no way unreasonable for players to have no choice of where they play for 6 seasons (after however many minor league seasons) due to an agreement that they weren't even a party to when it was signed?

Why should Dan Duquette get to better his life when Manny Machado, Josh Donaldson and Corey Kluber are vastly underpaid through a system slanted against them?

Also, how does this article not also mention Ken Williams?

Yep, every bit of this. What a smarmy, one-sided article filled with half-truths and ridiculous slant.

[ledzepp8]

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal

Nothing in Ken's Time-line that said Dan was ever offered the job. All he said he wants it.

He said:

Sources: Duquette wants to leave #Orioles, become #BlueJays? prez/CEO. Some with club not opposed to his departure. Angelos standing in way.

This statement implies that Duquette wants to leave and has an offer to become Jays president but Angelos is preventing the departure. It's obviously not true that hes' been offered a job by the Jays but that doesn't stop Rosenthal from implying it and stirring the pot. Because clearly Angelos can't stand in the way of a non existent job offer.

[Guest]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>An executive aware of the Toronto exec process told me that Williams candidacy is at least 3 weeks old and unlikely going to be resolved.</p>— Jim Duquette (@Jim_Duquette) <a href="

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[joeyc]

The thing is guys, if DD really wants out, what kind of job is he really going to do for us, going forward, if he really doesn't want to be here and is just being forced to stay. Do we really want a GM here that doesn't want to be here?

[atomic]

The thing is guys, if DD really wants out, what kind of job is he really going to do for us, going forward, if he really doesn't want to be here and is just being forced to stay. Do we really want a GM here that doesn't want to be here?

Do you remember the 14 years of losing? DD not giving 100 percent is much better than the alternatives. I don't think he would do that as poor performance in his job would make it hard for him to get a job in the future.

[eddie83]

Beeston staying on one more year is the worst possible outcome, IMO. If they'd just hire someone now, we could maybe move on from this, and at very least, goober Ken would look dumb, which would be a nice bonus.

The fact that he is staying says a lot. Who knows the whole story. I don't think Rosenthal is lying about DD having interest it is just how he slants everything. He basically said it is difficult for Orioles to stand in the way, some people wouldn't mind if he left, Angelos standing in the way and how can DD give his full attention to his job of he wants Jays job?

Ken as usual likes to stir the pot, and this is for a job that isn't even available. Remember the Angelos not wanting Ripken to work for the team story?

[ExileAngelos]

The thing is guys, if DD really wants out, what kind of job is he really going to do for us, going forward, if he really doesn't want to be here and is just being forced to stay. Do we really want a GM here that doesn't want to be here?

He will continue to do a fabulous job because he is a professional and would hurt his stock if he didn't continue to do so. Tired of the "if he doesn't want to be here" talk.

[Frobby]

The thing is guys, if DD really wants out, what kind of job is he really going to do for us, going forward, if he really doesn't want to be here and is just being forced to stay. Do we really want a GM here that doesn't want to be here?

I think there is a difference between Duquette having interest in a job that would have more responsibility and a higher salary, and Duquette "wanting out." There are lots of people who are content in their current job who would have interest in listening to such opportunities. Until proven otherwise, I have confidence that Duquette will do the best job he can for the Orioles even if Angelos won't let the Blue Jays talk to him. It's in his own self interest to do so.

[atomic]

It's great that a reporter can now write a 'story' in which he asks a ton of questions that have no answers. Thanks Ken, great job.

I don't get the CEO/GM thing. Why is it so important what you call someone? And why the African American thing in the article. If the Blue Jays want to interview people for their GM position why don't they pick people who aren't under contract to other teams as GM's? Wouldn't that make sense. And why would DD want to interview for a job that has other candidates. He couldn't pass any interviews for 10 years why does he think he could pass them now. With a job that people might actually want to take.

[atomic]

Jim Duquette says Dan loves it here. Hopefully he's just intrigued by the pay upgrade, but would still be happy here.

The thing is as GM of the Orioles he would basically have the job as long as he wanted it. He has 4 more years of guaranteed money here. How long do you think his job in Toronto would last if the team does poorly?

[AdamK]

He said:

Sources: Duquette wants to leave #Orioles, become #BlueJays? prez/CEO. Some with club not opposed to his departure. Angelos standing in way.

This statement implies that Duquette wants to leave and has an offer to become Jays president but Angelos is preventing the departure. It's obviously not true that hes' been offered a job by the Jays but that doesn't stop Rosenthal from implying it and stirring the pot. Because clearly Angelos can't stand in the way of a non existent job offer.

I am disappointed in how this is being handled.

1: "Duquette wants to leave" <--- Read that again. Then read it again. This is not an ambiguous statement made by Rosenthal.

2: "Some with club not opposed to his departure"

I think its time I need to hear who the source is. Because if its not Duquette himself (see quote 1 above), and its not someone within the Os org (See quote 2 above), then it sure seems like careless, damaging and contaminating reporting here.

I realize that tampering is typically a thing you may see with players under contract, but this sure seems like tampering to me. If not by the Blue Jays, then at least by Rosenthal.

[24fps]

I don't get the CEO/GM thing. Why is it so important what you call someone? And why the African American thing in the article. If the Blue Jays want to interview people for their GM position why don't they pick people who aren't under contract to other teams as GM's? Wouldn't that make sense. And why would DD want to interview for a job that has other candidates. He couldn't pass any interviews for 10 years why does he think he could pass them now. With a job that people might actually want to take.

Because in this as in all areas of professional life talent matters. More than anything else.

[mdbdotcom]

Let's look at this from the Williams perspective as it seems that may we all can be more objective. It was reported that Williams was also in the running. It was also reported that the White Sox refused to let the Jays interview him. Williams reportedly said "I almost resigned over this". That is obviously past tense. Now a report comes out that the Williams part of this was put to rest about 3 weeks ago. Do we believe that the Jays never contacted Ken Williams personally to see if he would be interested in the job before they requested the interview?

I believe that, because that is proper procedure.

[Mayor McCheese]

I dont want to speculate or anything but IMO if DD is really considering this job it may have to do something with the way this offseason is going and then having multiple key players heading into FA next season.

If Angelos is not give DD the full resources he needs to be able to resign / extend some of these players which would be the best for the club, I can see him wanting out.