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If you're 35 years or younger, you will have no memory of watching an Orioles team play in the World Series. Only three players on the current roster were even alive (Hardy, DOD, Pearce) at the time. Cal Ripken was the same age Manny Machado is right now. It's amazing how people aren't more cynical about this team. We are easily one of the five most tortured fan bases in baseball.

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It's amazing how people aren't more cynical about this team. We are easily one of the five most tortured fan bases in baseball.

Have you been reading the board? People are pretty cynical.

I'm not exactly confident that we'll make a run at the playoffs but this is better than the garbage we put up with pre-2012.

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Oh, come on. This is just trying to wallow.

Toronto hasn't made the play-offs since 1993. We've made it 4 times since then.

Tampa has been to the World Series one time in their 17 year history and they lost 4-1.

Cleveland hasn't won a world series since 1948.

The White Sox have been to one world series since 1959.

Kansas City hadn't reached the play-offs since 1985 until they went to the series last year.

My point isn't to disparage any of these teams. My point is that you're slicing things to make them look worse than they are and you know it. We have the best record in the AL from 2012 - today. Things aren't awful so stop trying to make them appear that way.

Or we can all whine and cry about it. You know how Adam Jones feels about that. If you don't, read Roch's game summary.

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Adam is fantastic. I wish the team had assets to trade to help build around him. I'd like to see him and Manny with a strong supporting cast for the next three years.

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If you're 35 years or younger, you will have no memory of watching an Orioles team play in the World Series. Only three players on the current roster were even alive (Hardy, DOD, Pearce) at the time. Cal Ripken was the same age Manny Machado is right now. It's amazing how people aren't more cynical about this team. We are easily one of the five most tortured fan bases in baseball.

So, cynicism normally gets you the things you want in life?

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Oh, come on. This is just trying to wallow.

Toronto hasn't made the play-offs since 1993. We've made it 4 times since then.

Tampa has been to the World Series one time in their 17 year history and they lost 4-1.

Cleveland hasn't won a world series since 1948.

The White Sox have been to one world series since 1959.

Kansas City hadn't reached the play-offs since 1985 until they went to the series last year.

My point isn't to disparage any of these teams. My point is that you're slicing things to make them look worse than they are and you know it. We have the best record in the AL from 2012 - today. Things aren't awful so stop trying to make them appear that way.

Or we can all whine and cry about it. You know how Adam Jones feels about that. If you don't, read Roch's game summary.

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The Red Sox won 0 championships between 1919 and 2003.

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If you're 35 years or younger, you will have no memory of watching an Orioles team play in the World Series. Only three players on the current roster were even alive (Hardy, DOD, Pearce) at the time. Cal Ripken was the same age Manny Machado is right now. It's amazing how people aren't more cynical about this team. We are easily one of the five most tortured fan bases in baseball.

Indians, Cubs, Padres, Mariners, Rockies, Pirates, Rangers, Astros, Brewers.

Nice try, though.

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Indians, Cubs, Padres, Mariners, Rockies, Pirates, Rangers, Astros, Brewers.

Nice try, though.

The Rangers have been much better than us in recent history and so have the Indians, Astros, Cubs, and Mariners if we are going to go back 15-20 years. The Indians won division titles five out of six years from 1995 to 2001. The Astros were very good in the late 90's and early 2000's. The others on that list have been pretty bad, but even the Padres got to the WS in 1998. An argument can be made for us being in the bottom five if we are going to go back 20 years. It all depends on what you consider recent history. For me it's 20 years.

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The Rangers have been much better than us in recent history and so have the Indians, Astros, Cubs, and Mariners if we are going to go back 15-20 years. The Indians won division titles five out of six years from 1995 to 2001. The Astros were very good in the late 90's and early 2000's. The others on that list have been pretty bad, but even the Padres got to the WS in 1998. An argument can be made for us being in the bottom five if we are going to go back 20 years. It all depends on what you consider recent history. For me it's 20 years.

The Cubs haven't won the WS since 1908. The Indians haven't won the WS since 1948. 6 of those 9 teams have never won the WS.

Saying we are one of the 5 most tortured fanbases in baseball is ridiculous.

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Being robbed of our moment last year thanks to the Kansas City baseball team was as tortuous as anything any of those teams have endured. It was literally stolen from us by a group of people who didn't deserve it and still don't deserve their success. The only thing I can think of that comes close recently is the Rangers in the '11 World Series.

The Rangers were 1 strike away from winning the WS twice. Also, Nelson Cruz had a chance to make a WS winning catch but it went about a foot over his glove.

And you're comparing our ALCS loss to the Royals last year to that? :rofl:

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The Cubs haven't won the WS since 1908. The Indians haven't won the WS since 1948. 6 of those 9 teams have never won the WS.

Saying we are one of the 5 most tortured fanbases in baseball is ridiculous.

It all depends on perspective. I'm 32 years old. I was 10 months old the last time we appeared in and won the WS. I will take winning consistently and having regular playoff appearances over that. And I don't see where the OP said we were one of the most tortured fan bases of all time. Our recent history has been pretty miserable. It's not debatable IMO.

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Being robbed of our moment last year thanks to the Kansas City baseball team was as tortuous as anything any of those teams have endured. It was literally stolen from us by a group of people who didn't deserve it and still don't deserve their success. The only thing I can think of that comes close recently is the Rangers in the '11 World Series.

They don't deserve it how? That is a very talented ballclub in Kansas City.

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The Red Sox won 0 championships between 1919 and 2003.

The White Sox went even longer than that (they went 88 years in between world championships, from 1917-2005.)

But in my rat's ass of an opinion, White Sox fans at-large are not whiny, narcissistic self-pityers, as are Cubs fans and as were Red Sox fans.

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Oh, come on. This is just trying to wallow.

Toronto hasn't made the play-offs since 1993. We've made it 4 times since then.

Tampa has been to the World Series one time in their 17 year history and they lost 4-1.

Cleveland hasn't won a world series since 1948.

The White Sox have been to one world series since 1959.

Kansas City hadn't reached the play-offs since 1985 until they went to the series last year.

My point isn't to disparage any of these teams. My point is that you're slicing things to make them look worse than they are and you know it. We have the best record in the AL from 2012 - today. Things aren't awful so stop trying to make them appear that way.

Or we can all whine and cry about it. You know how Adam Jones feels about that. If you don't, read Roch's game summary.

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At least he's not that other guy here who talks about how his life will be a failure since it looks unlikely the O's will win the Series during the roughly 60 years he has left.

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If you're 35 years or younger, you will have no memory of watching an Orioles team play in the World Series. Only three players on the current roster were even alive (Hardy, DOD, Pearce) at the time. Cal Ripken was the same age Manny Machado is right now. It's amazing how people aren't more cynical about this team. We are easily one of the five most tortured fan bases in baseball.

And how would that do any good? Being pissed to the point

your blood pressure goes up only hurts you. I have been

there before. It's not worth it.

Be thankful you are not a cubs fan.

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