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Center fielder and undisputed team leader Adam Jones doesn't want to see a repeat of last winter, when the Orioles let go of home run king Nelson Cruz, long-time right fielder Nick Markakis and dominating reliever Andrew Miller, though he recognizes that that more top-talent attrition is probably unavoidable.

"I want this team, from Day One of spring training, to not just talk about competing like everybody else ? all 30 teams do that at the beginning of it ? but actually have the team to be able to go out on the field and get the job done,'' Jones said Tuesday.

He said Tuesday that he intends to seek a meeting with Angelos and sit down with both manager Buck Showalter and Dan Duquette at some point early in the offseason to make a case for treating next season like the Orioles should have treated this one.

"It's going to be a different offseason because a lot of the core is now in situations where they can do things differently," Jones said. "I want to make sure that, hopefully, I can persuade or say anything to keep this team intact, and if (that's not possible), go get guys who have similar attributes and pedigrees.

"I think after the season, I'll let things die down a little, get away from the game and then go have a meeting -? talk to Peter, go talk to Buck, go talk to Dan and see what direction we're going next year."

What Jones does not want is to spend one or two of his remaining three years under contract on a rebuilding team. He's gotten a taste of winning and he wants to help take the Orioles to the next level of success.

"Because I'm getting older," he said. "As you get older, you want to win. I may want to play until I'm 40, but every day you get older, so you want to win and win and win. You see why Torii (Hunter) is still playing. You want to win."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-schmuck-orioles-column-0916-20150915-column.html

Good for you Adam, don't accept anything less than the best and go right to the top, PGA.

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It sounds like he's going to end up asking to be traded which will probably be for the best. Without significant payroll increase I don't see this team contending in the near future.

Huh? Where did you get that from the article? He doesn't say anything about wanting to be traded.

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From the Sun:

Center fielder and undisputed team leader Adam Jones doesn't want to see a repeat of last winter, when the Orioles let go of home run king Nelson Cruz, long-time right fielder Nick Markakis and dominating reliever Andrew Miller, though he recognizes that that more top-talent attrition is probably unavoidable.

"I want this team, from Day One of spring training, to not just talk about competing like everybody else ? all 30 teams do that at the beginning of it ? but actually have the team to be able to go out on the field and get the job done,'' Jones said Tuesday.

He said Tuesday that he intends to seek a meeting with Angelos and sit down with both manager Buck Showalter and Dan Duquette at some point early in the offseason to make a case for treating next season like the Orioles should have treated this one.

"It's going to be a different offseason because a lot of the core is now in situations where they can do things differently," Jones said. "I want to make sure that, hopefully, I can persuade or say anything to keep this team intact, and if (that's not possible), go get guys who have similar attributes and pedigrees.

"I think after the season, I'll let things die down a little, get away from the game and then go have a meeting -? talk to Peter, go talk to Buck, go talk to Dan and see what direction we're going next year."

What Jones does not want is to spend one or two of his remaining three years under contract on a rebuilding team. He's gotten a taste of winning and he wants to help take the Orioles to the next level of success.

"Because I'm getting older," he said. "As you get older, you want to win. I may want to play until I'm 40, but every day you get older, so you want to win and win and win. You see why Torii (Hunter) is still playing. You want to win."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-schmuck-orioles-column-0916-20150915-column.html

This is awesome

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From the Sun:

Center fielder and undisputed team leader Adam Jones doesn't want to see a repeat of last winter, when the Orioles let go of home run king Nelson Cruz, long-time right fielder Nick Markakis and dominating reliever Andrew Miller, though he recognizes that that more top-talent attrition is probably unavoidable.

"I think after the season, I'll let things die down a little, get away from the game and then go have a meeting -? talk to Peter, go talk to Buck, go talk to Dan and see what direction we're going next year."

What Jones does not want is to spend one or two of his remaining three years under contract on a rebuilding team. He's gotten a taste of winning and he wants to help take the Orioles to the next level of success.

"Because I'm getting older," he said. "As you get older, you want to win. I may want to play until I'm 40, but every day you get older, so you want to win and win and win. You see why Torii (Hunter) is still playing. You want to win."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-schmuck-orioles-column-0916-20150915-column.html

Sweet Jesus in heaven!!! I wish I could give 1 billion rep to Adam Jones right now.

Finally SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS that you need to IMPROVE A TEAM DURING AN OFFSEASON.

Yep, if AJ were a member of the board and said that, he'd get hit with fangraphs, neg reps and accusations of being a troll.

God bless you ADAM JONES!!!!

I'm about to cry tears of joy!!! I will be buying a nice real AJ Jersey for 2016!

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"If they wanted to extend me and make me a lifetime Oriole with no confusion about me going anywhere else, I'm always going to be open to that," he said. "I'm no idiot. I understand where comfort is. I understand where the opportunity was given and I've always been a loyal person. If that opportunity arose, you've always got to entertain a possibility that is securing your life and your family's life
Sounds like he would like to extend.

Maybe he talks to Angelos about that very thing, and then Dan and Buck about the team.

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He might not get banned from the board but his post would get buried in a two year old post where someone else was pointing out something that was wrong with the organization. Banning is so harsh when you can bury inconvenient facts like, maybe the Arietta move in a two year old post to make it go away.

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