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I was really thinking that once Davis turned the deal down that we were going to immediately sign Upton. We'll probably end up trading too much for Jay Bruce and losing our top pick for Gallardo.

Are we maybe waiting to see the Heyward deal? The Orioles rarely set the market for any signings let alone the big ones. ( I know we got O'Day and offered Crush but that's unprecedented with this club)

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    • wildcard
      Westburg is near ready

      By wildcard · Posted

      Elias wants to win this season.  In the evaluation of money vs winning with talent I think winning will be more important.  
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      By Sports Guy · Posted

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      Where will Holliday start the season?

      By RZNJ · Posted

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      By interloper · Posted

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    • Frobby
      Where will Holliday start the season?

      By Frobby · Posted

      Where are you reading this?   If it’s stuff from Eric_Birdland I wouldn’t make too much of it.   I enjoy his photos/videos but he doesn’t have much of a track record of being very discerning IMO.
    • wildcard
      Appears Grayson pitched his way to AAA to start the year

      By wildcard · Posted

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    • Frobby
      Westburg is near ready

      By Frobby · Posted

      In my experience, it typically takes 6-8 weeks before significant roster moves occur, except in case of injury.  And there are sound reasons for that.  Players need to play without worrying that one bad week or two won’t affect their status.  I’ve watched for years as fans called for this player or that to be replaced based on a cold start, and it never happens as fast as some fans want.   So now we come to Frazier, in whom the O’s invested $8 mm.   The guy is a respected veteran with a track record.  He is not going to lose playing time if he has a slow 17 days.  Do I think he’ll get as long a leash as Odor?   $8 mm vs. $700 k would say yes, but I don’t necessarily think so, because the alternatives are further along in their development.   But, I don’t want to get ahead of myself, because I’m expecting Frazier to play significantly better than Odor did last year.  So, we’ll just have to see. Elias did address Westburg specifically yesterday: “He’s really close,” Elias said. “He’s had 400 plate appearances in Triple-A, he’s had this really good spring training now under his belt. He continues to open eyes. When we’ve viewed our big-time prospects to be ready  - Adley, Gunnar - we bring them up, and so far they’ve done pretty well, and a big part of it is because I feel like we know what we’re doing with these promotions. We want guys of this caliber to come up and stay up. “I don’t like sending guys up and back. We’ve had to do it with DL Hall just because of some circumstances with his health and his innings and all that stuff. But I want these guys to come up and stay, and I expect that’s going to be the case for Westburg, I expect that it’s going to be soon, and I expect he’s going to do really well. But I feel like we have a systematic way of assessing when these guys are ready to come up and impact the team and be there to stay. We’ll let the track record kind of speak to that.” https://www.masnsports.com/blog/rodriguez-lester-o-hearn-cordero-and-westburg-among-orioles-camp-cuts So, we’ll see what they do, but I’m guessing 6-8 weeks before we see Westburg, unless there are injuries or trades.   And how much he plays once he’s up remains to be seen.    

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