UpstateNYfan Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Did Boras get 5% of the 15.8 that Weiters accepted?? He did nothing, no negotiations. I assume it is nothing more than a standard ML contract with no personal additions. If so, then Boras gets nearly 800 K for?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I believe Wieters can only be traded after June 15. Yes, I think the Orioles should have a hard look at that option, and not just if they are off to a poor start. No point in getting too worked up about it right now, but I expect this will be a big topic for discussion in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanSince88 Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 No point in getting too worked up about it right now, but I expect this will be a big topic for discussion in June. Touche, but still would rather be talking about this than whether Manny should show his face at FanFest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weams Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Touche, but still would rather be talking about this than whether Manny should show his face at FanFest. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The love for Caleb is that he has almost the same numbers as Winters over their careers for a fraction of the price and is pretty good defensively. Did I miss it when Joseph caught 140 games in a season? I'd think I'd remember something like that. I'm going to hazard a guess and say it is easier to keep the bat fresh when you only catch 94 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Rick Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Did I miss it when Joseph caught 140 games in a season?I'd think I'd remember something like that. I'm going to hazard a guess and say it is easier to keep the bat fresh when you only catch 94 games. Wieters called Caleb and gave him a heads up that he was going to accept a QO. He told Caleb: he was more than capable of catching 130-140 games in the big leagues." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Wieters called Caleb and gave him a heads up that he was going to accept a QO.He told Caleb: I know what he said. I also know what Joseph has actually done. Do you think that if Joseph caught 130 games his offense wouldn't suffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallas Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It would take more then five games out in May that is for sure.Would take pretty much a total collapse, a start like the 2011 club might be enough. But to actually answer the question. It would depend on the package. If it seemed to be basically equivalent to the pick I would do it since you would recoup a significant part of his salary. If Wieters is playing on fire, like on pace for 4 or 5 wins, then he's probably going to command a top 20-40 prospect, which is worth between 7-12 WAR according to this article. A sandwich pick is worth <5 WAR If Wieters is playing like crap, then we don't even get a draft pick, because we aren't offering him qualifying offer. So that would be sad. We might get a top 80-100 draft pick for him then, which is basically as valuable as a comp pick. A trade is almost always preferable, even for mid-tier prospects. You can usually wring out reliever value out of mid-tier pitching prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I know what he said.I also know what Joseph has actually done. Do you think that if Joseph caught 130 games his offense wouldn't suffer? Hard to know. I doubt Joseph ever will catch that many games in a season, though. Very few do, with Wieters being one of the rare ones who has done it a few times. Last year only two catchers started 130 games in all of MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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