Salary Dump Starting Pitchers

[Can_of_corn]

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/6/15/11938756/2016-mlb-trade-rumors-deadline-available-starting-pitchers

[srock]

To get a starting pitcher, who either overpay for mediocrity or clean out the rest of the farm system for "good". No thanks. Just say no!

Overpaying for mediocrity is at least possible.

I'm not sure the Orioles have enough farm talent to acquire anyone decent.

[sportsfan8703]

The market is just not there right now. TB seems like a good match but a trade with them is unlikely. I like James Paxton from SEA. I don't see what SEA would want from us. Givens?

[El Gordo]

Wright, Sisco, and Mancini, for Erasmo Ramirez?

[Can_of_corn]

The market is just not there right now. TB seems like a good match but a trade with them is unlikely. I like James Paxton from SEA. I don't see what SEA would want from us. Givens?

With such a small supply demand will be insane. Why do you think we have already seen a couple of deals? Teams know if they wait the price will skyrocket.

[webbrick2010]

Perhaps instead of looking at a veteran ML salary dump kind of guy we should be looking for an emerging AAA type guy

How about Mancini, Sisco, and probably something else for Josh Hader

or find another emerging pitcher like Hader

at least you get a guy who is young and cost controlled and give up young cost controlled position players to get it done

[Bumps49]

What would it take to get Rich Hill for the rest of the season, when he comes off the DL?

[sportsfan8703]

Perhaps instead of looking at a veteran ML salary dump kind of guy we should be looking for an emerging AAA type guy

How about Mancini, Sisco, and probably something else for Josh Hader

or find another emerging pitcher like Hader

at least you get a guy who is young and cost controlled and give up young cost controlled position players to get it done

Lol. We could never do that because it would turn Josh Hader into a Erik Bedard type package. We've already lost the comp pick from the HOU deal, then we'd be giving up 3 top prospects.

Our best bet is for teams like the Cards, Pirates, M's, CWS to fall out the race and turn into sellers.

[Can_of_corn]

What would it take to get Rich Hill for the rest of the season, when he comes off the DL?

Will he?

You know how many times he's pitched 100 innings in the majors?

Once.

[srock]

I wouldn't pay for mediocrity but if Gray could be had I would let Beane raid our farm system and let him take any three or 4 prospects he wanted. No questions asked.

I think Beane would pass...

[sportsfan8703]

Is Matt Moore considered a potential salary dump?

Has a 5 ERA since 2013 and the TJ surgery. TB has depth at SP and now has Matt Andriese(6-0, 2.66) in the pen with the aforementioned Erasmo Ramirez.

Moore's salary;

2016- 5 million

2017- 7 million, w/2.5 million buyout

2018- 9 million, w/1 million buyout

2019-10 million, w/750k buyout

Probably wishful thinking. But they could do a contender-contender swap and get a reliever for him(Givens). If they fall out of it they could sell him off for a package of prospects.

[orioles119]

Why not Hellickson? History in the AL East and had bounced back plenty this year.

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[ChuckS]

Why not Hellickson? History in the AL East and had bounced back plenty this year.

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I like Nolasco and Hellickson of the names mentioned. Nolasco will come cheaper due to the money remaining on his deal.

I think Ervin Santana gets destroyed in the AL East. No thanks.

Any of the better pitchers are going to cost us too much in terms of prospects. We would be emptying out literally everything we have of value to put a package together.

[weams]

Zero chance the Orioles are trading for Chen's contract. Zero

16:$12,500,000

17:$15.500

18:$10.000

19:$20.000

20:$22.000

21:$16.000 player option

It's one of the worst contracts out there.

[weams]

Overpaying for mediocrity is at least possible.

I'm not sure the Orioles have enough farm talent to acquire anyone decent.

Sure they do. Bundy and Mancini and Sisco and Mountcastle? Will get you a good.