They All Break

[Luke-OH]

43 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd be interested reading any layman level sources you might have.

This article is easy reading and overly simplistic but it is sourced at least somewhat. I’ll link scholarly stuff too if you want.

https://www.complete-strength-training.com/strengthen-connective-tissue.html

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

This article is easy reading and overly simplistic but it is sourced at least somewhat. I’ll link scholarly stuff too if you want.

https://www.complete-strength-training.com/strengthen-connective-tissue.html

Thanks.

I'm still doubtful that there is much a player can do to strengthen the UCL to handle the stress of pitching.

But I do appreciate the research.

[Luke-OH]

17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Thanks.

I'm still doubtful that there is much a player can do to strengthen the UCL to handle the stress of pitching.

But I do appreciate the research.

Oh, it’s more limiting damage than preventing it altogether, the forces of pitching are very extreme. It would seem (in my non-expert opinion) the best way to have a strong UCL is to start throwing sub maximally and consistently from a young age and to delay max effort pitches and even pitching off a mound as long as possible. Along with proper strength training and mobility work. Some of those things aren’t particularly realistic though.

[weams]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

And they have science to back up these claims?  Twenty percent increase seems like a lot.

Livestrong is Armstrong's foundation. 

[weams]

4 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Oh, it’s more limiting damage than preventing it altogether, the forces of pitching are very extreme. It would seem (in my non-expert opinion) the best way to have a strong UCL is to start throwing sub maximally and consistently from a young age and to delay max effort pitches and even pitching off a mound as long as possible. Along with proper strength training and mobility work. Some of those things aren’t particularly realistic though.

You don't get drafted first round with submaximal effort unfortunately. 

[Luke-OH]

1 minute ago, weams said:

You don't get drafted first round with submaximal effort unfortunately. 

Yeah, that’s the unrealistic part.

[TonySoprano]

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The discomfort in Harvey’s right elbow is due to a mild case of tendinitis, according to an industry source.

Harvey had been cleared on Aug. 6 to resume flat-ground throwing after experiencing some stiffness in his right forearm that removed him from the mound. He complained yesterday of soreness in the elbow, which always sets off organizational alarms based on his Tommy John surgery in 2016.

Hand specialist Dr. Brian Schofield examined Harvey today in Sarasota and a scan didn’t reveal any structural damage in the elbow.

Roch - http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2018/08/no-structural-damage-in-hunter-harveys-elbow.html

[esmd]

Hopefully that is indeed the case - we'll see.  At this point, if he can get back to the point where he can play in the Arizona Fall League, that would be a huge plus.  He needs the innings.

 

[OFFNY]

On 7/26/2018 at 7:00 PM, OFFNY said:

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(July 26th)

 

Strasburg Returns to DL after Throwing One Start

(By Jamal Collier)

https://www.mlb.com/news/stephen-strasburg-to-disabled-list/c-287433276

 

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1 Month Later (vs. PHILLIES)

 

Strasburg's fist game back from the DL was sub-par.

 

4 Innings Pitched, 5 Runs.

84 Pitches )(51 )Strikes, )33 )Balls.)

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=380822120

 

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[OsFanSinceThe80s]

On 8/21/2018 at 7:17 PM, tntoriole said:

Yes indeed...first year in (for 25 million this year, so it looks like that would be a -.2 WAR for the Cubs 25 mil in year 1)

I don’t know, but here are three thoughts.   I will bet you that old Yu will not be exercising his contract opt out after next season 2019,and instead being that he will be 32 next year, that the remainder of his deal which runs through 2023 at a remaining cost of about 22 million per year will be looking pretty good to him I wager and not looking too good at the end on review for the Cubbies.  And thirdly, Theo has always been overrated, imho.  

 

If any pitcher screamed you don’t give this guy a big contract it was Darvish.

A contract like this would set the Orioles back for years.  

Cubs can just go sign another pitcher to make up for this mistake.  

 

[SteveA]

13 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

So we have 3 young arms, all hyped to be future stud TORs.

Gausman, Bundy and then they added Harvey.

The new Calvary was coming to carrying the pitcher burden for the next decade.

Gausman never achieved it, and ended up getting a plane ticket out of town.

Bundy has teased up with flashes of greatness and the ability to cough up the long ball.

Harvey is back to the DL, and some doubt if he will ever stay healthy.

Bad luck, or what?

Don't forget Matusz.  He was supposed to be great too.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

56 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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1 Month Later (vs. PHILLIES)

 

Strasburg's fist game back from the DL was sub-par.

 

4 Innings Pitched, 5 Runs.

84 Pitches )(51 )Strikes, )33 )Balls.)

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=380822120

 

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He was also shaking out his arm after every pitch in the 4th. Didn't look comfortable at all.

[Redskins Rick]

9 hours ago, SteveA said:

Don't forget Matusz.  He was supposed to be great too.

Yes, another hyped pitcher that didnt amount to what he was supposed to be.

[pdiddy]

17 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Yes, another hyped pitcher that didnt amount to what he was supposed to be.

Matusz issues were between the ears IMO. Can’t fault the organization for that really. He went from being ridiculously good for half a season to a disaster without an injury or obvious delivery flaw that I can recall being discussed. If only they could have hypnotized him into believing that every batter was Papi.

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

Matusz issues were between the ears IMO. Can’t fault the organization for that really. He went from being ridiculously good for half a season to a disaster without an injury or obvious delivery flaw that I can recall being discussed. If only they could have hypnotized him into believing that every batter was Papi.

He was a 2 pitch pitcher that the league adjusted to him. He had a decent career as a Lefties out guy, more than most guys do, when all they can do, is dream about playing pro ball.