Disagreeing with Roch on the roster

[Rene88]

2 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

I have wanted him to make it for years and even mediocre numbers would be ok, but I have changed my mind and would designate him just before the last reduction deadline, hoping he gets through waivers, but frankly I do not think he can help us this year as badly as he is throwing. 

Unless he is hurt, I agree with your assessment. 

[Moondoggie]

5 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

But how can you truly evaluate him defensively? I am pretty sure a 15-day DL stint won't ruffle too many feathers. Beyond that, the O's do have a history and I agree, but this is not the same IMO.

It would be difficult to evaluate him defensively on the DL because he wouldn't be playing. Besides, that's not what the DL is for. It's for (presumably) real injuries. If he's ready to play defensively by opening day, they can hardly DL him because "needing to get work in" isn't an injury. Cleveland will kick up a fuss.

[MDtransplant757]

I wonder if Mancini would be starting at DH if Trumbo wasn't resigned. 

[El Gordo]

2 hours ago, MDtransplant757 said:

I wonder if Mancini would be starting at DH if Trumbo wasn't resigned. 

Mancini and Alvarez

[weams]

8 hours ago, wildcard said:

I put a lot of emphasis on who is pitching well now.  It just happens to be ST.  If they can't get minor leaguers out how will they get major leaguers out?

 

[weams]

Pena did not need to be optioned.

 

[Ruzious]

Guys like Wilson and Verrett shouldn't make the team unless they show a lot in Spring Training.  They don't have good resumes, and they don't have particularly good stuff.  

[Aristotelian]

In 2014 after we signed Ubaldo and he was terrible, the Orioles establishment just said he was working on his mechanics, he is a warm weather pitcher, etc. We all know how that turned out.

[wildcard]

I may have a different perspective than some others.   I believe the O's team is put together to win now.   When in that mode there are certain things that should be done with players.

If a player has an option and he is not pitching well he should be optioned.  Let him work his problems out in the minors and then bring him back to help in the majors when he has his best stuff.   Track record is all fine and good but pitchers go through times when the don't pitch well.   It doesn't help the team to have them on the major league roster when they are give up a lot of runs.  

Of course if the pitcher is sent down there has to be someone to replace him hat that is pitching well.  Otherwise you really have not helped the team.

The rules are that a player with an option as to stay in the minors for 10 days before he can be recalled unless another pitcher on the major league roster gets hurt.  Then he can replace the hurt pitcher in less time.  With that in mind using options doesn't mean a pitcher has to stay in the minors for months.  Its 10 days if he pitches well and there is a need at the major league level.

i don't feel bad about sending down a pitcher with an option that is pitching poorly.  Instead I think it helps the whole team when done right.

Really a good track record just means that a pitcher when pitching bad is likely to right himself at some point.  But no-one knows when that point will be. The presence of an option just means that the club does not have to endure that bad time that he is going through and can promote him when he is pitching well.

[Frobby]

6 hours ago, dan-O said:

If Drake makes this team I'll be extremely disappointed. He melted down last season and he's melting down in Spring. 

How did he melt down last season?   He had a 4.00 ERA in his major league time, including well under 2.00 in his August/September call-up.    I'm not a huge fan, but he did OK last year.  

[weams]

 

[weams]

I am so ready for the real baseball. 

[clapdiddy]

3 minutes ago, weams said:

I am so ready for the real baseball. 

Amen!   I'm really curious as to how the roster shapes up, but it will be awesome to have the real thing!

The O's were on the other day, and I watched an inning or so, and then I turned it off.   My wife was shocked that I changed channels and I told her that ST baseball just isn't fun to watch on TV.