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1 minute ago, Aristotelian said:

I agree, although Ubaldo's overall performance is more inline with his previous performance. I expect ups and downs with him. In terms of outperforming last year, Bundy 2017  > Tillman 2016, Miley 2017 > Miley 2016, and the #5's 2017 > #5's 2016. Ubaldo is about even, so that just leaves Gausman as the biggest outlier.  

Sure, I just wanted to make it clear that overall Ubaldo hasn't been much of an asset this season.

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2 hours ago, wildcard said:

How are the O's doing so well?   

Bundy has started fast using his cutter but that is kind of offset but not having Tillman.   Triumbo is still starting in the outfield. The O's defensive improvement is marginal.  Overall the team is about the same as last year other then that.

What's going on?

 

 

I think a lot has to do with a healthy Jones & Davis.  That and the starting pitching. 

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2 hours ago, Dark Helmet said:

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Yeah, and if they weren't pitching, they would have lost a majority of those games. 

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6 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

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If you remove the four game streak to open the season as well as the current four game streak were on, then the team is only .500 ......

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You can't just remove them. Those games were played, and they have to have a W-L decision, one way or the other.

So if you replace those two 4-game winning streaks with two 4-game losing streaks, the Orioles would be 4-12 right now.

 

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Starting pitching is outperforming. I doubt it continues but loving it. Usually the bats awaken with warmer temps. That's why this depth is key. Keep auditioning guys so we know what we got.

I also think our pitching coach has something to do with this or another way of looking at it, is maybe the old pitching coach did....or Wieters. Never was a huge Wieters fan but he has been getting too much blame as of late IMO. Roger might actually be a good pitching coach. Too early to know yet.

 

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Just now, OFFNY said:

 

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You can't just remove them. Those games were played, and they have to have a W-L decision, one way or the other.

So if you replace those two 4-game winning streaks with two 4-game losing streaks, the Orioles would be 4-12.

 

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You're correct. This team just isn't very good. ;)

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2016 11 Wins 5 Losses

2017 12 Wins 4 Losses  (One Game Better)

2016 3.64 ERA

2017 3.38 ERA  (0.26 Better)

2016 49 Walks Allowed

2017 57 Walks Allowed (8 walks more)

2016 124 Strikeouts

2017 127 Strikeouts (3 K's more)

2016 57 Earned Runs (4 Unearned)

2017 54 Earned Runs (1 Unearned) (3 Less unearned and 3 Less Earned)

2016 10 Homeruns allowed

2017 11 Homeruns allowed. (1 more HR)

 

Put it all together only one win more and a very insignificant difference in ERA, Walks, K's or Runs.  The three unearned runs may be the difference in the ONE WIN total.

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8 minutes ago, thezeroes said:

2016 11 Wins 5 Losses

2017 12 Wins 4 Losses  (One Game Better)

2016 3.64 ERA

2017 3.38 ERA  (0.26 Better)

2016 49 Walks Allowed

2017 57 Walks Allowed (8 walks more)

2016 124 Strikeouts

2017 127 Strikeouts (3 K's more)

2016 57 Earned Runs (4 Unearned)

2017 54 Earned Runs (1 Unearned) (3 Less unearned and 3 Less Earned)

 

Put it all together only one win more and a very insignificant difference in ERA, Walks, K's or Runs.  The three unearned runs may be the difference in the ONE WIN total.

It somehow feels more satisfying the way we've done it this year.   Last year they were 7-0 followed by 4-5.    This year we're 5-0-1 in series.   But at the end of the day, all that matters is how many W's you've accumulated.    

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

It somehow feels more satisfying the way we've done it this year.   Last year they were 7-0 followed by 4-5.    This year we're 5-0-1 in series.   But at the end of the day, all that matters is how many W's you've accumulated.    

On paper, the difference is not much but as you say, it feels better this year.

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3 hours ago, wildcard said:

So its the starters?  Why?  Ubaldo is up and down.  Gausman's ERA is 7.23.  Is the pen better?  Is it the defense?  I understand that the starters have not allowed more than three run in all but for games but why?  Are they pitching better or getting better support for the defense and pen?

62,25 QS% 

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18 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It somehow feels more satisfying the way we've done it this year.   Last year they were 7-0 followed by 4-5.    This year we're 5-0-1 in series.   But at the end of the day, all that matters is how many W's you've accumulated.    

Another reason this feels better: after our 7-0 start last year, we played .500ish ball for more than a month.    We didn't reach 8 games over until May 11.

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