Should we buy or sell?

[Going Underground]

They wIll not sell.Hunter was interviewing Buck after the game. Hunter was saying what great at bats that Schoop,Jones and Mancini had in the ninth. Buck even said thanks for being positive but we had many bad  at bats and did not play well.Funny that even the manager knows what a shill Hunter is.Between all the MASN shills (Hunter,Bordick and Roch) they will never sell.They got these guys to hype up the team.Also don't tell me Roch is not a commentator.In his posts he has criticized the Nationals,Yankees,Red Sox,Astros and Blue Jays.Let me know when he criticizes the Orioles. 

[TouchemAll]

 I am all for selling for the future, but these posts are almost worthless The O's ain't selling anybody get use to it.

[tntoriole]

2 hours ago, eddie83 said:

Would you want him to face the order the 3rd time through?

3rd, 4th time and then he would pitch 9 the next day too.   And the day after that. 

[El Gordo]

2 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

I hope we drop low enough that we don't end up trading legitimate prospects for an overpaid, over-the-hill starter for a "one more time" run. Jones, Hardy and O'Day are in decline. The window has closed. Time to start over.

What kind of fan hopes they lose?????

[El Gordo]

35 minutes ago, TouchemAll said:

 I am all for selling for the future, but these posts are almost worthless The O's ain't selling anybody get use to it.

I love it when people use aint to try and make themselves sound savvy. 

[Superbee83]

38 minutes ago, TouchemAll said:

 I am all for selling for the future, but these posts are almost worthless The O's ain't selling anybody get use to it.

    I agree that the Orioles will not be sellers.

    The company line will focus on the return of Britton, Davis, and Hardy if the team continues it's downward spiral.

[Lucky_13]

2 hours ago, Barnaby Graves said:

Buy with what?

Exactly. With even our best prospects on the table we would get outbid by other teams for real difference makers. Either sell or stand pat.

[mall-O-cup]

4 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Very simple.  Should this team be buyers or sellers come the trade deadline?  I want to see the poll numbers for us site members.

Heck we know somebody reads this board.

The real question isn't whether this team should be buyers or sellers at the deadline.

The real question is WILL they be sellers at the deadline.

There are enough people on this board, like myself, who know they should sell.

I'm hoping they sell but have no expectations.

 

 

 

[gtown]

I think a soft sell makes the most sense. For the O's to blow it up and rebuild effectively, they would need Machado and Britton at maximum value. 

There are a few assets though that could bring a mid-level prospect each.

1. Seth Smith. In 2015, the price for Gerardo Parra was Zach Davies. Smith's a veteran hitter who could help a contender. Mancini takes over full time in RF when Davis returns. Sign Bourn as a backup.

2. Welington Castillo. It's likely that some team will lose a catcher to industry at some point this month. Let's hope that team is not the Orioles. Castillo's having a decent enough year to fetch something. Give catcher to Caleb Joseph and Francisco Pena if Sisco needs more time.

3. Darren O'Day. A couple of hiccups aside, O'Day still has a good WHIP and strikeout rate. See what the Twins or Nats would be willing to give up for bullpen help.

None of these guys will bring top prospects, but possibly MiLers who could help.  

[mdbdotcom]

1 hour ago, El Gordo said:

What kind of fan hopes they lose?????

The kind that doesn't want to see them give away any of the few real prospects we have in a lost cause.

[El Gordo]

Just now, mdbdotcom said:

The kind that doesn't want to see them give away any of the few real prospects we have in a lost cause.

If they win they won't need to.

[Rojo13]

I'd like a soft sell as well but think we have time. See how the team does in the 1st two weeks after the All-Star break before deciding.

But here is why I'm posting. For everyone who thinks trading Manny would net a lot, please tell me why?

First of all, what World Series contending teams need a SS or 3B badly?

In terms of SS, Houston, LAD, Boston, Arizona, Milwaukee and washington all have SS in the top 10 in the league in batting. So who the hell needs one desperately?

In terms of 3b, there does seem to be slightly need but nothing major. Which expected World Series contender needs a 3b badly? Certainly not the Dodgers, Arizona, Milwaukee or Washington.

Boston might be the only team.

And any team trading with us is going to know that Manny has the third worse OPS of all #bs in the league.

So for anyone who wants to ship Manny. Please tell me which team is going to trade the farm for him?

 

 

[clapdiddy]

As much as I don't believe in this team, I still go with El Gordo at this point.   We need to see where we are in 15 games.   If we could somehow go 10-5 over that span, and keep within a game or two of the wildcard, there's no way PA and DD will sell.

I hope we don't do something stupid like trade someone like Hays, Mountcastle, or Mullins, though.   I suppose one of those guys could be available if we could acquire pitching that will be around for more than this season.

 

[Going Underground]

Also if the Orioles win the next five they would probably be the second WC. Twins would lose  and Rays would lose all the games to the Red Sox and Royals lose to the Dodgers.. i don't see it happening but if it does the Orioles are not selling.

[Frobby]

12 hours ago, Going Underground said:

They wIll not sell.Hunter was interviewing Buck after the game. Hunter was saying what great at bats that Schoop,Jones and Mancini had in the ninth. Buck even said thanks for being positive but we had many bad  at bats and did not play well.Funny that even the manager knows what a shill Hunter is.Between all the MASN shills (Hunter,Bordick and Roch) they will never sell.They got these guys to hype up the team.Also don't tell me Roch is not a commentator.In his posts he has criticized the Nationals,Yankees,Red Sox,Astros and Blue Jays.Let me know when he criticizes the Orioles. 

I don't see what the attitude of the announcers or team-paid bloggers has to do with the team's decisions whether to reshape this team to some degree.      No matter what Hunter, Bordick or Roch say or do, fans won't be very interested in a losing team.    So, management has to decide the best way to get back to winning, whether that's buying now to try to eke a few more wins out of this team, standing pat and hoping the team plays better, or doing some selling to try to win more in the future.    Nothing the announcers or bloggers say will change the reality of those choices.