It's Time to Play the Youngins

[weams]

41 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think the only way DD would "mutually agree to part ways" is if he was allowed to explore opportunities with other teams first.    He's not going to walk away from a year's salary unless he knows he can make as much or more with another team.     Of course, they can always agree that he'll leave but Angelos will pay him his salary to be a "consultant" until he lands another job, or something like that.    

Give him Frank and Flanny's office. 

[Nevermore]

1 hour ago, foxfield said:

 

Well, I agree that he will be here and get paid, and to your question of will he get a better deal elsewhere?  Why wouldn't that be possible?

All he has done is until literally the last week post the best record in the American League after taking a job for one of the most dysfunctional franchises in sports history.  Oh and by the way when the job was open previously we couldn't get junior up and comers to interview for the job, much less take it.  We got an experience GM who had been out of the game for 10 years.  He hasn't been perfect and I can certainly understand anyone who believes there are better candidates for the job going forward, but what he has done here is nothing short of amazing and if he wants another gig, I can't imagine that he won't get one.

And why was DD ouy of baseball for 10 years?

[foxfield]

 

1 hour ago, Nevermore said:

And why was DD ouy of baseball for 10 years?

29 teams could get people to interview for jobs?  I do not know.  But he should certainly be able to get a job based on his work in Baltimore.  Maybe not...the real question isn't can he get a job...it's can you get someone better?

[sportsfan8703]

"Buck hates Sisco" may be an appropriate judgment if he doesn't play the freaking dude down the stretch.  We're not getting to .500. We probably won't get to 75 wins. 

Play the dude. Trumbo is terrible and needs a kick in the butt for next year. I know we have two catchers, so the AB's should be coming from DH. Really our lineup should be, 

Hays RF

Sisco C/DH

Santander LF/DH

Mancini LF/1B/DH

Ttumbo gets 9 days on the bench to decide if he wants to hit to RF in 2018. 

[FlipTheBird]

14 hours ago, foxfield said:

 

29 teams could get people to interview for jobs?  I do not know.  But he should certainly be able to get a job based on his work in Baltimore.  Maybe not...the real question isn't can he get a job...it's can you get someone better?

Indeed. You'd think, after some of the awful GMs the O's had come through during the dark era, folks would remember that this isn't easy.

[eddie83]

8 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

"Buck hates Sisco" may be an appropriate judgment if he doesn't play the freaking dude down the stretch.  We're not getting to .500. We probably won't get to 75 wins. 

Play the dude. Trumbo is terrible and needs a kick in the butt for next year. I know we have two catchers, so the AB's should be coming from DH. Really our lineup should be, 

Hays RF

Sisco C/DH

Santander LF/DH

Mancini LF/1B/DH

Ttumbo gets 9 days on the bench to decide if he wants to hit to RF in 2018. 

You think benching a man who is owed around 25M the next 2 seasons accomplishes anything?

[Il BuonO]

17 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

You think benching a man who is owed around 25M the next 2 seasons accomplishes anything?

Eh, yes. You always want your best team on the field. Trumbo either has to hit better next year or he sits. Even if he gets close to the offensive production of 2016 he has limited value because he's a defensive liability.

[Pheasants]

18 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

You think benching a man who is owed around 25M the next 2 seasons accomplishes anything?

What we owe Trumbo is a sunk cost.  If he develops an attitude problem, he can't get any worse.  We should see how good the others are.  I think the team will seriously consider DFAing Trumbo--reminiscent of Miggy.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Pheasants said:

What we owe Trumbo is a sunk cost.  If he develops an attitude problem, he can't get any worse.  We should see how good the others are.  I think the team will seriously consider DFAing Trumbo--reminiscent of Miggy.

They cut Miggy in spring training to save money.

That is a far cry from paying Trumbo full value for two years.

They are much more likely to trade him, either eating some of his salary or taking a bad contract in return.

[Otter]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They cut Miggy in spring training to save money.

That is a far cry from paying Trumbo full value for two years.

They are much more likely to trade him, either eating some of his salary or taking a bad contract in return.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to take Trumbo even if we eat some of the money.  At this point, he's a DH-only who can't hit.  But then again, Duquette was able to get Seattle to take Gallardo and we even got back something of value in Smith.  I tend to hate most of Dan's trades, but trading Gallardo was his Sistine Chapel.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, Otter said:

I can't imagine anyone wanting to take Trumbo even if we eat some of the money.  At this point, he's a DH-only who can't hit. 

He hit in 2016, didn't hit in 2017.   We can't assume 2018 will look exactly like one or the other.   

[Otter]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

He hit in 2016, didn't hit in 2017.   We can't assume 2018 will look exactly like one or the other.   

True.  But as he gets older, I would bet 2018 and 2019 will look more like 2017 than the outlier of 2016.  I know it's anecdotal, but he has looked about as bad as a major leaguer can look at the plate lately.  Swinging weakly at pitches at head level, flailing at breaking balls a foot outside.  I wonder if he has some kind of nagging injury.  Regardless, I wish Buck would sit Trumbo, both for his own good, the good of the fans, and most importantly to get some at bats for Sisco and Santander.

[OldNewGuy]

Buck has his "core" six going tonight. Only Trey, & Austin of the rooks, and they have been hitting are in there tonight. Castillo is playing for his keep next year. Can't play any of those other guys. They don't have a track record of bumping and grinding with Buck.

[sportsfan8703]

6 minutes ago, OldNewGuy said:

Buck has his "core" six going tonight. Only Trey, & Austin of the rooks, and they have been hitting are in there tonight. Castillo is playing for his keep next year. Can't play any of those other guys. They don't have a track record of bumping and grinding with Buck.

You're right. Season is over. Trumbo played 150 games. Let Sisco at least DH. See where the bat is at. 

We should've just added Pena. This backs up my theory that Sisco will never catch for Buck. SP's can walk the whole world, but a C doesn't dare to give up a SB. 

Im a huge Buck supporter, but he's letting me down right now. Sisco put up monster numbers in AA just like Mancini and Hays. He deserves some darn DH AB's. 

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

You're right. Season is over. Trumbo played 150 games. Let Sisco at least DH. See where the bat is at. 

We should've just added Pena. This backs up my theory that Sisco will never catch for Buck. SP's can walk the whole world, but a C doesn't dare to give up a SB. 

Im a huge Buck supporter, but he's letting me down right now. Sisco put up monster numbers in AA just like Mancini and Hays. He deserves some darn DH AB's. 

And I ask once again, if Dan puts Sisco on the 25 with Caleb (assuming Beef walks) how does Buck avoid playing him?

Is Joseph going to catch 150 games?