Buck losing the Clubhouse?

[Natty]

Anyone else notice that we are swinging at way too many bad pitches? And not just Davis.

[Dark Helmet]

52 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Jones has actually been a lot better with the bat of late.  Last 14 days 333/360/563.  He still isn't walking of course.  He's got a while before he can dig himself out of the hole he's in but it is progress.

Maybe he can get hot enough to squeeze a prospect out of a contender.

[Dark Helmet]

22 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

Maybe he can get hot enough to squeeze a prospect out of a contender.

Of course I read Adam bought Cals house. An extension will probably be announced soon. That will lighten up this dark season for the average fan haha.

[foxfield]

13 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

No wire hangers?

Brady Dearest?!?

[Natty]

1 minute ago, Dark Helmet said:

Maybe he can get hot enough to squeeze a prospect out of a contender.

Yea there's lots of interest out there for old center fielders with short range and a candy arm, right?

[Tx Oriole]

9 hours ago, Rene88 said:

Why is Celeb the bad guy for saying that? (I know you may not agree) just trying to understand. Is it just keeping things “in house”?

I don't think Caleb is the bad guy for saying anything. Maybe Buck didn't like him saying what he did. I don't know. 

[foxfield]

14 hours ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I was going to say I’ve heard that Chris Davis has lost all confidence in Buck.    Chris Tillman, too.

If you had a GM who wasn’t a lame duck, he could go to ownership and say “the manager has lost the clubhouse and I recommend firing him.”    But how does that work in this crazy organization?

It’s a shame that a fun era of Orioles baseball is ending on such an extremely sour note.    

This...

Regardless of your point of view on the Orioles mess. DD to blame, Buck to blame Peter Angelos to blame...

What pains me most is that making good decisions with trusted baseball people is what got us out of the darkness. And there is absolutely no semblance of structure here to give hope. 

Virtually all of the positive energy that exuded from the Orioles is gone. The single by Andino to end the Redsox collapse in 2011. The double to score JJ in 2012. At the time this was a beautiful painting over of decades of filth and dispare. The smell of success and confidence oozed from every poor of the Orioles from players to fans. 

Today the stench and horror of watching some of these same folks is showing what fresh paint cannot hide. Structurally, this franchise is broken and hideous. An astute observer would recognize that the Orioles are disorganized and dysfunctional. We have threads about Davis, Tillman Buck, Brady and others. These are symptoms. 

If ownership does not change, the only hope is that a decision is made to hire baseball people to do baseball jobs. The problems are massive the solution is so obvious it hides from logic. Hire a GM, give him/her a budget and get the hell out of the way. 

Mr. Angelos, tear down this wall!

[Natty]

If it's Tillman and Davis... That's pitiful blaming the coach because they can't play acceptable baseball any more. 

[Tx Oriole]

1 hour ago, Dark Helmet said:

I've had my criticisms of Buck. But it's even more annoying when players being paid millions start pointing the finger when they aren't doing their job. Jones seems to be the self appointed leader, then lead. He can start by playing better himself. I'm  actually ready for this core to be gone. 

 

1 hour ago, Dark Helmet said:

I've had my criticisms of Buck. But it's even more annoying when players being paid millions start pointing the finger when they aren't doing their job. Jones seems to be the self appointed leader, then lead. He can start by playing better himself. I'm  actually ready for this core to be gone. 

I agree. If Davis doesn't like Buck or trust him then CD start to hit the damn ball and play like you should.  That goes for the whole team. Tillman feels like Davis then start to pitch better. Not like s ten year old. Yes Buck has plenty of blame as does DD and Angelos. The players need to put on their big boy pants and start to play better. 

[TouchemAll]

1 hour ago, Natty said:

Anyone else notice that we are swinging at way too many bad pitches? And not just Davis.

That one ball Trumbo swung at last night was truly laughable. It was so far off the plate to make contact he would have had to throw the bat at it. 

[pastorfan]

21 hours ago, ORIOLE33 said:

Running Davis out there has got to be a topic of discussion among players behind Bucks back. 

We all work. And who hasn’t questioned their bosses concerning their favorite?

Exactly. Unfortunately, Buck really can't do much about it...other than hitting him 8 or 9 and not against lefties. But he has to play to either regain form or quit and take a buy out.

[Bradysburns]

I don't understand how Brady jumps from "roving jock" to heading the entire organization. 

That circumvents whole categories of activity and experience that are normally required to oversee a baseball team.

This in itself is a sign that the Orioles' former driver has fallen asleep (Angelos), and several people are jerking on the wheel. Yay! 

[Dark Helmet]

11 hours ago, Natty said:

Yea there's lots of interest out there for old center fielders with short range and a candy arm, right?

And an older CF has never moved to a corner outfield position and had success....right?  I guess Torri Hunter didn't exist.

[SteveA]

2 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

And an older CF has never moved to a corner outfield position and had success....right?  I guess Torri Hunter didn't exist.

Carlos Beltran too

[Dark Helmet]

38 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Carlos Beltran too

Yeah. I think Jones would be a pretty good CO. His bat isn't what it was, but it's still decent. And I think moving to a CO position would make his defense better.

A contending team looking for a solid bat and the ability to play any OF position, could probably net a decent prospect. Not saying a top 10, but maybe a 20ish type prospect.