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6 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

Is Gausman represented by Boras?  If not, than I take anything Heyman says with a grain of salt.

Rich said same thing but keep hanging onto a fake story 

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5 minutes ago, Greg said:

Rich said same thing but keep hanging onto a fake story 

And his co-worker at MASN said something different, as well as multiple writes for the Pirates (including one at The Athletic who I'd say is pretty reliable).

Keep trying to spurn everyone as much as you want. This is a message board and we are a team in rebuild mode and wanting trades. We are free to talk about any report we want, and I'd say we have reason to do it regardless of what your boy Heyman put out. There's been a ton of smoke from other writes who are legit.

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47 minutes ago, Greg said:

so glad we can end this made up story 

 

 

You must be fun at parties. 

I don't quite get tenaciousness to get people to stop talking about a trade rumor. Like you genuinely seem upset about it and joyful that you found something that puts a damper on people's enthusiasm.  

For the record, because I don't want it to be misconstrued, there's nothing wrong with posting the Heyman tweet having balance in a discussion is a good thing, but your overall approach to the situation just seems odd.  

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Just now, jrobb21613 said:

Are we able to fill out the rotation trading Bundy and/or Gausman without rushing guys to the big leagues to soon? Do we have the arms available to replace them?

Akin wouldn't really be rushed, Means is ready for a shot and so is Rogers. We could definitely do it. Tate is also close.

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Just now, jrobb21613 said:

Are we able to fill out the rotation trading Bundy and/or Gausman without rushing guys to the big leagues to soon? Do we have the arms available to replace them?

I am sure if you want an opposing team would be willing to throw in some AAAA pitcher to pitch some innings down the stretch.  Might not pitch well but should be able to do as well as Cobb has been doing. 

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1 hour ago, Thato'sfan said:

We will three of the first 45 picks, including a top 3 pick. We will likely have 3 of the first 50ish picks in the 2020 draft. We have a chance to draft some high ceiling, impact talent for sure.

Yep - and now think about the fact that we MIGHT start playing in the international pool, too... Imagine us drafting Mesa this year, and among the top few international guys as well the next couple seasons. 

I seriously believe that if you had to put your finger on ONE thing that's held the Orioles back over the years, it's our lack of international amateur signings. If they fix that, and do reasonably well with the rest of this rebuild... we could see a return to the Orioles as perennial threats, and by 2021. 

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6 minutes ago, jrobb21613 said:

Are we able to fill out the rotation trading Bundy and/or Gausman without rushing guys to the big leagues to soon? Do we have the arms available to replace them?

We’d really only have to cover August. We could have a 15 man pen in September If we wanted. Rogers is pretty much ready in AAA. As are Means and Yacabonis. Miguel Castro could get some starts as well. 

Covering starts in August should not prevent us from being a better team in 2021. 

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5 hours ago, Camden_yardbird said:

The trade market is hot but the pirates are extremely protective of their prospects.

Hmmm... If that means they won't pay at least market value, then I guess we can say: buh-bye. 

You don't jettison raw, young, controllable talent like Gausman and Givens for spare parts, that's for sure.

If we're really going to trade them, we should get the best deal possible. If that means waiting till the offseason, or even next trade deadline... fine by me. No need to get stupid and start rushing this process. It's going to take years, and the more strategic we can be now, the better. 

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Also wouldn’t we be selling low on Gausman and Bundy if we traded them now? What’s the rush? I think it’s a better chance of them turning the corner and pitching better and increasing there value then there is of the opposite. I mean Gausman is not free agent till 21 Bundy 22

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Just now, jrobb21613 said:

Also wouldn’t we be selling low on Gausman and Bundy if we traded them now? What’s the rush? I think it’s a better chance of them turning the corner and pitching better and increasing there value then there is of the opposite. I mean Gausman is not free agent till 21 Bundy 22

Would depend on what the return is right?

As for what's the rush, guys that have more controllable service time are worth more than guys that have less.

 

I've said it before, this board is more down on Gausman than other teams are.

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Would depend on what the return is right?

As for what's the rush, guys that have more controllable service time are worth more than guys that have less.

 

I've said it before, this board is more down on Gausman than other teams are.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have several teams making them offers on Gausman.

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5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Would depend on what the return is right?

As for what's the rush, guys that have more controllable service time are worth more than guys that have less.

 

I've said it before, this board is more down on Gausman than other teams are.

Absolutely depends on the return. And I’m sure we are asking for a hefty one as we rightfully should. With Gausman stuff plus the years of control imo he’s worth teams top prospect plus especially if we are including Givens who also under team control we better get a hell of a haul!

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