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6 minutes ago, TonySoprano said:

Cubs say he'll be back for 2019, no talk of a contract extension beyond that.

Man talk about what have you done for me lately. I know he made a lot of questionable decisions the year they finally won but man. Sorry I have to admit that I haven't been paying attention to baseball at all that much the past year or so. Been busy with work.

 

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1 hour ago, Satyr3206 said:

I wonder if the person or people giving prospective Managers this test took one themselves when hired? Somehow I doubt it.

I wonder if right now Buck is reading "Prospective Manager's Test for Dummies".  He probably keeps missing the question, which pitcher do you put in an extra inning, win or go home game?  C.  Your worst starting pitcher

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8 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

I wonder if right now Buck is reading "Prospective Manager's Test for Dummies".  He probably keeps missing the question, which pitcher do you put in an extra inning, win or go home game?  C.  Your worst starting pitcher

Havent we had enough slam Buck here on OH?

I get he wasn't perfect.

But for 5 years, we had winning baseball and meaningful games in October here. Doesn't that count for something.

Get credit where its due.

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1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

Havent we had enough slam Buck here on OH?

I get he wasn't perfect.

But for 5 years, we had winning baseball and meaningful games in October here. Doesn't that count for something.

Get credit where its due.

There is credit and there is the "in Buck I trust" mentality that pervaded this board for years.  To some posters he was beyond criticism.

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

There is credit and there is the "in Buck I trust" mentality that pervaded this board for years.  To some posters he was beyond criticism.

I get some of that.

But that playoff game is long over, enough already, its a dead horse.

End of the day, there was more good things to remember and doesn't that count for something?

I agree it was time to move on and try somebody else.

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2 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

I get some of that.

But that playoff game is long over, enough already, its a dead horse.

End of the day, there was more good things to remember and doesn't that count for something?

I agree it was time to move on and try somebody else.

I think the magnitude of the error is going to make it an evergreen reference.  I think this is true not just for Oriole fans but baseball fans in general.

It might be a top ten playoff blunder of all time.

 

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

I think the magnitude of the error is going to make it an evergreen reference.  I think this is true not just for Oriole fans but baseball fans in general.

It might be a top ten playoff blunder of all time.

 

I wouldn't call it a top ten blunder.

Bill Buckner blunder at 1st in the WS counts as one.

Todd Zeile throwing the ball into the dirt during the 96 ALCS counts.

and so on and so on.

Leaving the closer in the bullpen in a tied game and extra innings, is a non-call.

Of course, hindsight allows us to flame away, and I was right there, yelling at my TV to put Britton in, but I dont think it constitutes a blunder IMO.

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7 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I wouldn't call it a top ten blunder.

Bill Buckner blunder at 1st in the WS counts as one.

Todd Zeile throwing the ball into the dirt during the 96 ALCS counts.

and so on and so on.

Leaving the closer in the bullpen in a tied game and extra innings, is a non-call.

Of course, hindsight allows us to flame away, and I was right there, yelling at my TV to put Britton in, but I dont think it constitutes a blunder IMO.

I think you are in the minority.

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7 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I wouldn't call it a top ten blunder.

Bill Buckner blunder at 1st in the WS counts as one.

Todd Zeile throwing the ball into the dirt during the 96 ALCS counts.

and so on and so on.

Leaving the closer in the bullpen in a tied game and extra innings, is a non-call.

Of course, hindsight allows us to flame away, and I was right there, yelling at my TV to put Britton in, but I dont think it constitutes a blunder IMO.

That is certainly an opinion that most of the baseball world disagrees with.

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41 minutes ago, Ballmer Bruce said:

Love Buck but not using Britton for two innings in a win or go home game cannot be rationalized ever. 

With that being said Godspeed Buck and I hope wherever your baseball life leads you Baltimore will always be your permanent home. 

 

Nice post!

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10 hours ago, Ballmer Bruce said:

Love Buck but not using Britton for two innings in a win or go home game cannot be rationalized ever. 

With that being said Godspeed Buck and I hope wherever your baseball life leads you Baltimore will always be your permanent home. 

 

Agree

11 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

I wouldn't call it a top ten blunder.

Bill Buckner blunder at 1st in the WS counts as one.

Todd Zeile throwing the ball into the dirt during the 96 ALCS counts.

and so on and so on.

Leaving the closer in the bullpen in a tied game and extra innings, is a non-call.

Of course, hindsight allows us to flame away, and I was right there, yelling at my TV to put Britton in, but I dont think it constitutes a blunder IMO.

 

11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think you are in the minority.

Rick is correct, it is not a top ten blunder.  And I don't think anyone outside of Baltimore will ever think it is.  But it was a blunder and it was a big deal.   IF Corn is disagreeing with the last line that it wasn't a blunder...well sure, but I believe Rick meant that line to agree with the first line....that it wasn't a top ten blunder.

 

The Orioles were a weak playoff team and a successful playoff run would have required many wild risks to payoff.  History should note that a wild and lose Buck was sent home early, with his Ace in the hole, but with a pretty weak hand regardless.  That is just fact.

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3 minutes ago, foxfield said:

Agree

 

Rick is correct, it is not a top ten blunder.  And I don't think anyone outside of Baltimore will ever think it is.  But it was a blunder and it was a big deal.   IF Corn is disagreeing with the last line that it wasn't a blunder...well sure, but I believe Rick meant that line to agree with the first line....that it wasn't a top ten blunder.

 

The Orioles were a weak playoff team and a successful playoff run would have required many wild risks to payoff.  History should note that a wild and lose Buck was sent home early, with his Ace in the hole, but with a pretty weak hand regardless.  That is just fact.

I live outside of Baltimore and frequent non Oriole specific baseball sites.  Buck not using Britton was a big deal, was remembered and looks to be the new measuring stick when it comes to bullpen mismanagement i the playoffs.

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11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think you are in the minority.

I agree that Rick is probably in the minority for that.  Every fan, every person watching that game, knew that putting Britton in was the right call.  Buck's stubborn unwillingness to pitch his closer in a tie game was costly.

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11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think the magnitude of the error is going to make it an evergreen reference.  I think this is true not just for Oriole fans but baseball fans in general.

It might be a top ten playoff blunder of all time.

 

 

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I live outside of Baltimore and frequent non Oriole specific baseball sites.  Buck not using Britton was a big deal, was remembered and looks to be the new measuring stick when it comes to bullpen mismanagement i the playoffs.

I agree with the second statement.  But that is moving the goal posts from the first, which I think is incorrect.

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