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Britton on the use of analytics in New York vs. Baltimore

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This is the part that bothers me:

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A recent survey by The Athletic’s Eno Sarris and Marc Carig said the Orioles had a staff of five in research and development, tied for the fifth-smallest department in the majors. The Dodgers and Yankees each employ 20 in R&D, tied for most in the majors, and their respective managers, Dave Roberts and Aaron Boone, work closely with their front offices to integrate the data they receive, as do many other managers.

Even if Buck wasn't big on analytics, isn't the department being small still on Dan? Aren't analytics used in a lot of ways that go beyond managerial decisions?

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3 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

This is the part that bothers me:

Even if Buck wasn't big on analytics, isn't the department being small still on Dan? Aren't analytics used in a lot of ways that go beyond managerial decisions?

Maybe.

It might also be hard to get funding for your project if the Manager, who holds a lot of sway, is dismissive of their efforts.

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4 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

This is the part that bothers me:

Even if Buck wasn't big on analytics, isn't the department being small still on Dan? Aren't analytics used in a lot of ways that go beyond managerial decisions?

Good question.

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5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Plenty of blame to spread all around:  Buck, Dan, Ownership, Lew Ford.

So my exceptional bright wife was filling me in about a horrible Jaba Chamberlain segment on SiriusXM that she listened to where Jaba and all his Yankeeness trashed Joe Musgrove and the Astros for their analytic approaches. He told them that it was all about feel and instinct and nothing about data. Child of the Bronx. 

He embarrassed himself and anyone who managed him. Quite rude to Musgrove from here explanation as well. 

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3 minutes ago, Satyr3206 said:

Analytics are stats crunched by a computer. Have any of you played the game? You can not be thinking about that and have any success. Ever.

So players have never received scouting reports before and still played? 

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4 minutes ago, weams said:

So my exceptional bright wife was filling me in about a horrible Jaba Chamberlain segment on SiriusXM that she listened to where Jaba and all his Yankeeness trashed Joe Musgrove and the Astros for their analytic approaches. He told them that it was all about feel and instinct and nothing about data. Child of the Bronx. 

He embarrassed himself and anyone who managed him. Quite rude to Musgrove from here explanation as well. 

Tell her I said Hi.

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1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

So players have never received scouting reports before and still played? 

The difference is that Earl knew who hit well against a certain pitcher. Earl knew  where the batter hit the ball the last ten times. 

Earl did not know Cuellar's spin rate. Or the amount of break on his pitches. Lateral movement and plain. 

He did not know that a certain batter was 75% hard hit against forkballs above the belt.  

Hinch is given that data to use or to ignore. 

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2 minutes ago, Satyr3206 said:

You can scout and do whatever. You still have to hit, field, and pitch. No scouting or analytics will help with that.

There are only 800 fellows in the entire world that have the skills to do those things. Not 3000. Not 7500. That extra data helps them be league average or better. Those 800. 

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