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Grayson Rodriguez - RHP - 2018 #2 Prospect

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2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Bold placement for someone with less than 20 professional innings.

He hasn't had as many opportunities to show lack of skills (Mountcastle, defense...Yusniel, everything since he got to our system).  

I like Gray-Rod.  I like the frame.  IIRC, around the draft it sounded like he was one of the more polished HS pitchers that were available when they selected him.

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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Bold placement for someone with less than 20 professional innings.

Well again, it depends on what you want in your prospects. Only DL Hall matches the ceiling of Rodriguez in this organization. He's built like a horse, commands well for an 18-year old, already has shown two plus pitches and the ability to throw his change for strikes on occasion.

He may end up throwing harder more consistently as his man strength kicks in and if that happens and he can stay healthy, we're talking a guy with a #2 type ceiling.

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Well again, it depends on what you want in your prospects. Only DL Hall matches the ceiling of Rodriguez in this organization. He's built like a horse, commands well for an 18-year old, already has shown two plus pitches and the ability to throw his change for strikes on occasion.

He may end up throwing harder more consistently as his man strength kicks in and if that happens and he can stay healthy, we're talking a guy with a #2 type ceiling.

Thank you.

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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Well again, it depends on what you want in your prospects. Only DL Hall matches the ceiling of Rodriguez in this organization. He's built like a horse, commands well for an 18-year old, already has shown two plus pitches and the ability to throw his change for strikes on occasion.

He may end up throwing harder more consistently as his man strength kicks in and if that happens and he can stay healthy, we're talking a guy with a #2 type ceiling.

I'll be interested to see if they manage his innings as carefully as they did with Hall (94 IP).    My guess is they will give him a bit more leeway.

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1 hour ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Do you think he might start at Delmarva instead of Aberdeen to get a full year of baseball.

Hall started in Delmarva and I’d be surprised if Rodriguez doesn’t start there as well.

If I had to explain why he’s ranked this high, it’s be the rapid growth in breaking ball quality, it shows aptitude as a pitcher. Just 1 year ago, he had one slurvy breaking ball of lackluster quality. This spring it had turned into two separate pitches both better than the original (a 55 slider and a 50 curveball). Then during his short time in the Orioles org, the curveball developed significantly, it showed plus in instructs video.

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9 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Well again, it depends on what you want in your prospects. Only DL Hall matches the ceiling of Rodriguez in this organization. He's built like a horse, commands well for an 18-year old, already has shown two plus pitches and the ability to throw his change for strikes on occasion.

He may end up throwing harder more consistently as his man strength kicks in and if that happens and he can stay healthy, we're talking a guy with a #2 type ceiling.

 

5 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

Hall started in Delmarva and I’d be surprised if Rodriguez doesn’t start there as well.

If I had to explain why he’s ranked this high, it’s be the rapid growth in breaking ball quality, it shows aptitude as a pitcher. Just 1 year ago, he had one slurvy breaking ball of lackluster quality. This spring it had turned into two separate pitches both better than the original (a 55 slider and a 50 curveball). Then during his short time in the Orioles org, the curveball developed significantly, it showed plus in instructs video.

Just so you know I wasn't questioning the ranking.  Just pointing out that it was a bold decision to pick a player that was just drafted out of HS and had such little pro experience that highly.

Lot of risk with the profile.  You guys must like his chances of reaching his positional.

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3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

Just so you know I wasn't questioning the ranking.  Just pointing out that it was a bold decision to pick a player that was just drafted out of HS and had such little pro experience that highly.

Lot of risk with the profile.  You guys must like his chances of reaching his positional.

I agree there is plenty of risk here. I think Tony went upside/impact over stability of a profile at times, which in a deep system full of contributors but lacking impact, may be the best way to delineate talent. That said, the people Tony talked to thought very highly of Grayson and I upgraded him in my personal rankings after seeing a plus CB in some instructs videos. Here is one example look at that thing 40 seconds in.

 

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