“The Streak” Thread

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, Moshagge3 said:

Sandlot is "right up there" with the Bad News Bears in the sense that Nickelback is "right up there" with the Beatles.

Wow, that's a crazy take. Although looking on Rotten Tomatoes not an unpopular one.

[DrungoHazewood]

58 minutes ago, BRobinsonfan said:

By far, you have been my favorite OH contributor since I joined this board in September of 2003.  In 19 years I think this is the only time I have so completely and violently disagreed with you.  Field of Dreams is not just the greatest baseball movie of all time, it's the GREATEST movie of all time.  I once broke up with a girl because she thought it was a silly movie about grown men in a corn field.  If DrungoHazewood could be so wrong about this what else is he wrong about???  It's like growing up to find out Brooks Robinson bet on baseball, cheated on his wife, regularly kicked his dog, and sold nuclear secrets to the Russians.  I just don't know what to believe anymore.  

Be better DrungoHazewood.  Be better.  

 

 

I admit that when I watch it it's pretty emotional and gripping.  It's a good movie.  I've been to Dyersville and walked into the corn field.  But I also am not at all a fan of Shoeless Joe Jackson hagiography, this whole oh he and the Black Sox are victims narrative.  He took $5000 to throw the World Series.  He's lucky he didn't end up in jail.

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, Moshagge3 said:

Sandlot is "right up there" with the Bad News Bears in the sense that Nickelback is "right up there" with the Beatles.

If I didn't alienate enough people with putting The Sandlot and the Bad News Bears on the same plateau, I also always thought the Beatles were a little overrated.  Zeppelin, too.

[Moshagge3]

8 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

If I didn't alienate enough people with putting The Sandlot and the Bad News Bears on the same plateau, I also always thought the Beatles were a little overrated.  Zeppelin, too.

I mean, they're so famous it would be hard for them to be underrated.

[Can_of_corn]

4 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Eight men out is pretty good. Never seen the original Angels in the Outfield, and the new one is almost so bad it's funny (but not quite).

It's a kid's movie and of its time.

But the cast is solid.  So very much better than the remake.

[NCRaven]

Bull Durham is my favorite.

[Just Regular]

4 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I forgot Bull Durham, probably because I haven't seen it in a loooong time. I need to rewatch it.

This is like the cinematic equivalent of you forgetting John McGraw!?!?

Worthy follow-ups like Major League 4.7.1989 and Field of Dreams 4.21.1989 were just following the trail Bull Durham 6.15.1988 blazed, like the Orioles going all opener-bullpen attack on Tampa this weekend.   It has real baseball soul, and is actually about baseball to some small extent.    The other two are just for laughs and about parenthood.

I have to declare the bias of it being the first R-rated movie I remember getting past the ticket booth cops for in adolescence, but even actively trying to do so, I don't feel there's anything else close.

The screenwriter is on B-Ref and was maybe filming an autobiography, or at least there's genuine baseball heart in the artist's rendering.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=shelto003ron

 

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

This is like the cinematic equivalent of you forgetting John McGraw!?!?

Worthy follow-ups like Major League 4.7.1989 and Field of Dreams 4.21.1989 were just following the trail Bull Durham 6.15.1988 blazed, like the Orioles going all opener-bullpen attack on Tampa this weekend.   It has real baseball soul, and is actually about baseball to some small extent.    The other two are just for laughs and about parenthood.

I have to declare the bias of it being the first R-rated movie I remember getting past the ticket booth cops for in adolescence, but even actively trying to do so, I don't feel there's anything else close.

The screenwriter is on B-Ref and was maybe filming an autobiography, or at least there's genuine baseball heart in the artist's rendering.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=shelto003ron

 

It's soul is a chick flick (no disrespect intended) romantic comedy.

 

[DrungoHazewood]

7 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

This is like the cinematic equivalent of you forgetting John McGraw!?!?

Worthy follow-ups like Major League 4.7.1989 and Field of Dreams 4.21.1989 were just following the trail Bull Durham 6.15.1988 blazed, like the Orioles going all opener-bullpen attack on Tampa this weekend.   It has real baseball soul, and is actually about baseball to some small extent.    The other two are just for laughs and about parenthood.

I have to declare the bias of it being the first R-rated movie I remember getting past the ticket booth cops for in adolescence, but even actively trying to do so, I don't feel there's anything else close.

The screenwriter is on B-Ref and was maybe filming an autobiography, or at least there's genuine baseball heart in the artist's rendering.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=shelto003ron

 

I didn't see Field of Dreams or Bull Durham in the theater, but I actually took a date to see Major League. So that'll always be high on the list for me. All of them came out when I was a junior/senior in high school. Even though I appeared to be 12* at the time, I don't remember any problems getting into R-rated movies.

* Guy at Memorial Stadium laughed at me on beer stein night when I was maybe 20 years old ("no way kid!"), but I got my revenge later that winter when I got the 14-and-under hockey stick at the Caps game.

[Just Regular]

10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's soul is a chick flick (no disrespect intended) romantic comedy.

 

I'd agree with that.    That's just baked into almost anything the Hollywood storytelling industry complex will put out, just riffing on William Shakespeare and Jane Austen.    Human pair-bonding an evergreen story element.

Annie-Nuke-Crash, Bella-Edward-Jacob if it needs to be more complicated than Romeo-Juliet and something aside from a 3rd interested individual keeping 2 people apart, etc.    I feel Shelton met the Hollywood technical requirements to get the bandwidth he needed to tell some of the baseball story he wanted.

[Chelsea_Phil]

I’ll stand by my unpopular opinion of the sandlot.  So ‘the natural’ was different than the book, so what?

and, again as it seems to be a minority opinion, I think the tearjerker ‘bang the drum slowly’ with a super young De Niro is right up there.

[DrungoHazewood]

10 minutes ago, Chelsea_Phil said:

I’ll stand by my unpopular opinion of the sandlot.  So ‘the natural’ was different than the book, so what?

and, again as it seems to be a minority opinion, I think the tearjerker ‘bang the drum slowly’ with a super young De Niro is right up there.

The Natural is another one that I will watch and enjoy the heck out of, but still have these lingering issues about how they could have done it differently.  Someone needs to remake the Natural (Tim Burton? Herzog? Coens?  Someone who can really pull off depressing and weird) and stay true to the book, so at the end Roy strikes out, then is met outside the stadium by a kid with a newspaper that says "Hobbs suspected in gambling scheme", and he just weeps as the credits roll.

Bill James once wrote that the lesson of Malamud's book was that no matter what you do nothing ever works out in the end.

[Just Regular]

The magic of the internet and B-Ref in about five clicks has gotten me to the 1971 Rochester Red Wings team page, about the end of the line for future screenwriter Shelton.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/team.cgi?id=337a85a1

Baylor, Grich, Crowley...pretty much expected to see them.     But Johnny Oates and Ray Miller played for that team too!

Now I wonder if Crash Davis is Johnny Oates.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

The magic of the internet and B-Ref in about five clicks has gotten me to the 1971 Rochester Red Wings team page, about the end of the line for future screenwriter Shelton.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/team.cgi?id=337a85a1

Baylor, Grich, Crowley...pretty much expected to see them.     But Johnny Oates and Ray Miller played for that team too!

Now I wonder if Crash Davis is Johnny Oates.

Steve Dalkowski inspired Nuke LaLoosh.

 

[Chelsea_Phil]

3 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

The magic of the internet and B-Ref in about five clicks has gotten me to the 1971 Rochester Red Wings team page, about the end of the line for future screenwriter Shelton.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/team.cgi?id=337a85a1

Baylor, Grich, Crowley...pretty much expected to see them.     But Johnny Oates and Ray Miller played for that team too!

Now I wonder if Crash Davis is Johnny Oates.

Damn, Dutch Weems batted 1.000 on that team .  Is that the Weems of this forum who passed away last year?