Mike Trout to the Orioles?

[Sports Guy]

The contract combined with the injuries are why you acquire him for less than his talent and numbers suggest.

It’s also why he won’t be dealt because every team will think that way except the one trading him.

The only way I believe he gets dealt is if LA pays a good size portion of the deal in exchange for getting a high end package in return.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

The contract combined with the injuries are why you acquire him for less than his talent and numbers suggest.

It’s also why he won’t be dealt because every team will think that way except the one trading him.

The only way I believe he gets dealt is if LA pays a good size portion of the deal in exchange for getting a high end package in return.

He also won't get dealt because of the no trade protection.

Edited September 13, 2022 by Can_of_corn

[Sports Guy]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He also won't get dealt because of the no trade protection.

Very true although we don’t know if he would waive it and to which team(s) he would waive it for.

I suspect Philly and the New York teams would be in play.  Is Baltimore close enough?  

[RZNJ]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Very true although we don’t know if he would waive it and to which team(s) he would waive it for.

I suspect Philly and the New York teams would be in play.  Is Baltimore close enough?  

To Millville, NJ or his mansion in Newport Beach, CA?

[emmett16]

I've been thinking about this more and more.  At first, I thought it was ridiculous, but the more I think about it Trout just may be the guy to go for.  It's a huge risk, but who better to take that risk on than the best player of our generation?  There are a ton of if's, ?'s, injury concerns, and monetary risk, but when the guy is on the field, he flat out produces.  He could be a franchise altering player if it plays out perfectly.  He would bring so much PR to the team and get to play in the bright lights of NY & Boston.   He would be the face of the young Orioles team that is consistently in the playoffs for the next 5-10 years.  He could be the new generation of Oriole fans Frank Robinson coming to town on the wrong side of 30 with everyone telling him his career is over.  He provides that feared middle of the line-up pop and he frees you up to trade Mullins & Santander for pitching.  37MM @ 8 is a lot to swallow and why I think the risk is probably too steep, but it's fun to think about having Trout in the middle of the line-up with Adley and Gunnar for the next 5 years and having our generation's best player winning a couple WS in orange and black.  

[DrungoHazewood]

Does anyone really think the Orioles are going to trade like six really good, cheap, young talents they've spent the last five years accumulating for a 30-year-old superstar making $38M a year until he's almost 40?  Is Mike Trout really going to agree to a trade from LA to Baltimore? As a 10-and-5 guy he can veto any trade.  The key to long term success in Baltimore is a constant infusion of young, cheap talent, not offloading busloads of it for extravagantly expensive 30-something superstars.

It just seems like someone who spent 30 years methodically putting away money in their 401(k), and the minute they turn 58.5 they blow half of it on a Ferrari. It feels weird, it does feel ridiculous.

[jamalshw]

2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Does anyone really think the Orioles are going to trade like six really good, cheap, young talents they've spent the last five years accumulating for a 30-year-old superstar making $38M a year until he's almost 40?  Is Mike Trout really going to agree to a trade from LA to Baltimore? As a 10-and-5 guy he can veto any trade.  The key to long term success in Baltimore is a constant infusion of young, cheap talent, not offloading busloads of it for extravagantly expensive 30-something superstars.

It just seems like someone who spent 30 years methodically putting away money in their 401(k), and the minute they turn 58.5 they blow half of it on a Ferrari. It feels weird, it does feel ridiculous.

I agree. This will never happen. Not in a million years. There are so many reasons why it won't happen it's crazy....but.....it would be fun and on an Orioles forum where outside of fantasyland we've lost back-to-back games in depressing fashion to the Tigers, I'm all about fun. 

In this never in a million years scenario, it would be shades of Frank Robinson. A 30-year old superstar with some questions about how long he can keep this up. He would absolutely transform this lineup. And if you could get him for without giving up Adley, Henderson or Rodriguez for something like Mullins, Cowser, Hall, Westburg, and Rom as someone proposed, I'd be all over it. While the farm system takes a sizeable hit, you still have a good young team and some guys in the minors like Norby, Ortiz, and Mayo to be optimistic about. 

A lineup of Henderson-3B (L), Trout-CF (R), Rutschman-C (S), Santander-DH (S), Mountcastle-1B (R), Hays-LF (R), Stowers-RF (L),Urias-2B (R), Mateo-SS (R) is interesting. It does put a bit more on Hays bouncing back and Stowers being an everyday option without Cowser in the wings though Vavra could steal some of those ABs and McKenna is still there as a 4th OF and option against LHP. 

Either way, that would be an amazing lineup to watch. And while Trout would take up a large part of the payroll, the rest of the payroll is low enough that there's still an opening to add a starter (though with the more depleted farm system, that starter probably has to come via free agency rather than trade). 

But, again, it's not going to happen. Still, it's fun to visit dreamland for a bit. 

[Pickles]

On 8/27/2022 at 1:28 PM, Sports Guy said:

Nah, stupidity is talking about several players being worth more than 1.  That’s great.  So I guess that means trading Grayson, Holliday, Henderson and Hall is fair because Trout was worth more in 2020, in a shortened season, than those 4 combined the last 3 years.

Stupidity is insinuating that only Trout would play the 2 positions vacated.  It’s Trout plus the other replacement vs Mullins and Hays.

Just stop while you are behind.  The idea that you are trying to argue that a 4th OFer at best and a guy who may just be a platoon player is more valuable than one of the top 10 players ever is dumber than the argument earlier this year when someone said Adley couldn’t OPS over 600.

Now, we don’t know what Trout’s injury is going to look like long term, so who knows.  But every GM in baseball would laugh hysterically at your posts in this thread.

But please, keep it up.  Your posts are hysterical.

Receipts.

2023

Mullins/Hays Combined WAR: 2.6

Trout WAR: 1.7

Mullins/Hays Combined Salary: 7.3 Million

Trout Salary: 37.1 Million

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Not that a Trout trade would ever happen, but he’s on pace for his worst offensive season of his career which still equates to a 144 OPS+. 

Any team that trades for Trout shouldn’t expect him to be the hitter he was the first decade of his HOF career. It’s still early enough in the season maybe Trout bounces back to near his career average production. 

Edited May 28, 2023 by OsFanSinceThe80s

[Pickles]

12 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Not that a Trout trade would ever happen, but he’s on pace for his worst offensive season of his career which still equates to a 144 OPS+. 

Any team that trades for Trout shouldn’t expect him to be the hitter he was the first decade of his HOF career. It’s still early enough in the season maybe Trout bounces back to near his career average production. 

Oh yeah.  He's still a better player than Mullins straight up.  This isn't a critique of Trout.

[OriolesMagic83]

On 9/21/2022 at 10:41 AM, DrungoHazewood said:

Does anyone really think the Orioles are going to trade like six really good, cheap, young talents they've spent the last five years accumulating for a 30-year-old superstar making $38M a year until he's almost 40?  Is Mike Trout really going to agree to a trade from LA to Baltimore? As a 10-and-5 guy he can veto any trade.  The key to long term success in Baltimore is a constant infusion of young, cheap talent, not offloading busloads of it for extravagantly expensive 30-something superstars.

It just seems like someone who spent 30 years methodically putting away money in their 401(k), and the minute they turn 58.5 they blow half of it on a Ferrari. It feels weird, it does feel ridiculous.

Yes, we don't want to become San Diego w/ way less money.  Is San Diego better than the O's in 2023.

[OriolesMagic83]

If Trout was actually on the market, there would be 10 owners pushing their GM to trade for him.  Trout has already had a Hall of Fame career.  Let's not trade the farm for his decline phase.

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Yes, we don't want to become San Diego w/ way less money.  Is San Diego better than the O's in 2023.

San Diego is a smaller market.  

[Moose Milligan]

Gotta love the “random thread bump to prove SG wrong” move. 

[Os4days]

17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

San Diego is a smaller market.  

Not by much and they have spent a lot of money. Wish Baltimore would try and lock up some of our young guys.